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Re the quote(s): that's the least interesting part of the article, although assuming the quote is correct, I don't believe we should fault Ars because Google ma

by blub 8y ago

Re the quote(s): that's the least interesting part of the article, although assuming the quote is correct, I don't believe we should fault Ars because Google management gave misleading statements. The core is the discussion about the various apps and how Google is using the GAS as a lever to control an open source OS to the point that it's both having its open source cake and eating it too. Well, until this EU decision that is. I have seen first hand how Google's subsidizing of Android through ad dollars brought other mobile OS producers to their knees. This behaviour is anti-competitive and should not be allowed. Few are "successful enough to experience this as well", because Google destroyed the mobile OS market: Windows Phone, FirefoxOS, webOS, Meego were all technically compelling alternatives that had potental to grow, but which couldn't compete with "free". And since we're wishing each other things, I hope you will realise one day how much your employer is hurting our societies and realise that you were right there helping and defending them. P.S: I have wrongly focused too much on OSS instead on the gratis + subsidized by ads part. I am willing to concede the point regarding OSS being a plus for manufacturers in light of what you said, if you claim that Google was willing to share all the sources with manufacturers while keeping the project closed. This would basically have given them all the advantages, assuming they had a solid contract in place. I'll keep this in mind when discussing this in the future, thanks.

DannyBee 8y ago
"And since we're wishing each other things, I hope you will realise one day how much your employer is hurting our societies and realise that you were right there helping and defending them." Sorry, that was a cheap shot on my part, i apologize. FWIW: I am the type of person who if i felt what you say was true, i would just quit. So i suspect we just have different perspectives on reality here. Which is fine. I think you also would find i am not in general a fan of corporations and corporate form. For example: I think LLCs shouldn't exist (They aren't needed to promote innovation), and in general, that corporations exist to serve society and not the other way around. I think that's definitely gone off the rails in the past 100 years or so. But this thing we are talking about, even looking back with the benefit of hindsight, i would say it was a good thing for society overall. My employer in general, well, again, I think our perspectives are just different. On what my employer does, it's motivations, etc.

by blub 8y ago

DannyBee 8y ago

"And since we're wishing each other things, I hope you will realise one day how much your employer is hurting our societies and realise that you were right there helping and defending them." Sorry, that was a cheap shot on my part, i apologize. FWIW: I am the type of person who if i felt what you say was true, i would just quit. So i suspect we just have different perspectives on reality here. Which is fine. I think you also would find i am not in general a fan of corporations and corporate form. For example: I think LLCs shouldn't exist (They aren't needed to promote innovation), and in general, that corporations exist to serve society and not the other way around. I think that's definitely gone off the rails in the past 100 years or so. But this thing we are talking about, even looking back with the benefit of hindsight, i would say it was a good thing for society overall. My employer in general, well, again, I think our perspectives are just different. On what my employer does, it's motivations, etc.