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I wouldn't say "no problems." I've been through a New York State residency audit and it was protracted, stressful, intrusive, and expensive (for representation

I wouldn't say "no problems." I've been through a New York State residency audit and it was protracted, stressful, intrusive, and expensive (for representation -- worth every penny), even though I had indeed really moved (long before the audit and not specifically for tax reasons), had loads of evidence to that effect, and was confident I would prevail in the end. (I did.) It was very unpleasant having it hanging over me for the better part of a year and I definitely thought of it as a major problem, perhaps the major problem in my life at the time, until it was resolved.

tomohawk 8y ago
This definitely gives me pause when considering moving to a high tax state like NY. It sounds like the kind of state where you pay your taxes and just hope the government leaves you alone, which is likely untrue if you are or become a high earner. This kind of stuff will likely be litigated for years, especially as people with means are being harassed in this way. It will be interesting to see which of these tactics ultimately pass muster. I wonder if you could bring a RICO suite.
- radicaldreamer 8y ago
  You're buying into a lot of FUD here, there are more high earners in New York and California than many other states and very few have the kinds of problems you're describing.
  - wernercd 8y ago
    But with pushes to enact higher and higher and higher taxes specifically TARGETING higher earners... the problem is something that will become more pronounced as those higher taxes will drive more away. Whether we are talking tens... or tens of hundreds... it's still nice to know about a minefield as you work to escape from it.
    - throwaway5752 8y ago
      "But with pushes to enact higher and higher and higher taxes specifically TARGETING higher earners... the problem is something that will become more pronounced as those higher taxes will drive more away." Which pushes, can you cite a few or a trend where the distribution of tax load is shifting? Isn't NYS trying like crazy to lower higher income bracket taxes because the Federal deduction for property taxes was decreased?
  - tomohawk 8y ago
    People being harassed because they moved out of state is not FUD. Its abuse, and it definitely happens. Why would I move to a state and have a career there if I know at the end of my career I'll be at peak earnings and at that time want to move elsewhere for retirement or pre-retirement? Many people in my state move at that time to other states for tax reasons or cost of living reasons. They know they won't be able to afford to live in the high priced state when their earnings drop. I know of at least one person who's in the process of moving to FL, and they received legal advice to save all receipts and other evidence. The only reason they received this advice is due to the widespread abuse by the state. Not a NYer, but I
- dsfyu404ed 8y ago
  >It sounds like the kind of state where you pay your taxes and just hope the government leaves you alone, That has much more to due with how the people and the government believe government should act than it does with the taxes themselves. ME and VT are fairly high tax but politicians would be hanging from bridges (edit: it should be obvious that this is an exaggeration) if the ME or VT government tried to behave like the NY or MA government because the people simply don't see that sort of government style as how things should be and the government is a large organization made up of people.

tomohawk 8y ago

This definitely gives me pause when considering moving to a high tax state like NY. It sounds like the kind of state where you pay your taxes and just hope the government leaves you alone, which is likely untrue if you are or become a high earner. This kind of stuff will likely be litigated for years, especially as people with means are being harassed in this way. It will be interesting to see which of these tactics ultimately pass muster. I wonder if you could bring a RICO suite.

radicaldreamer 8y ago
You're buying into a lot of FUD here, there are more high earners in New York and California than many other states and very few have the kinds of problems you're describing.
- wernercd 8y ago
  But with pushes to enact higher and higher and higher taxes specifically TARGETING higher earners... the problem is something that will become more pronounced as those higher taxes will drive more away. Whether we are talking tens... or tens of hundreds... it's still nice to know about a minefield as you work to escape from it.
  - throwaway5752 8y ago
    "But with pushes to enact higher and higher and higher taxes specifically TARGETING higher earners... the problem is something that will become more pronounced as those higher taxes will drive more away." Which pushes, can you cite a few or a trend where the distribution of tax load is shifting? Isn't NYS trying like crazy to lower higher income bracket taxes because the Federal deduction for property taxes was decreased?
- tomohawk 8y ago
  People being harassed because they moved out of state is not FUD. Its abuse, and it definitely happens. Why would I move to a state and have a career there if I know at the end of my career I'll be at peak earnings and at that time want to move elsewhere for retirement or pre-retirement? Many people in my state move at that time to other states for tax reasons or cost of living reasons. They know they won't be able to afford to live in the high priced state when their earnings drop. I know of at least one person who's in the process of moving to FL, and they received legal advice to save all receipts and other evidence. The only reason they received this advice is due to the widespread abuse by the state. Not a NYer, but I
dsfyu404ed 8y ago
>It sounds like the kind of state where you pay your taxes and just hope the government leaves you alone, That has much more to due with how the people and the government believe government should act than it does with the taxes themselves. ME and VT are fairly high tax but politicians would be hanging from bridges (edit: it should be obvious that this is an exaggeration) if the ME or VT government tried to behave like the NY or MA government because the people simply don't see that sort of government style as how things should be and the government is a large organization made up of people.