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> Not to mention that today it seems that every phone is taking advantage of computational image processing in order to give a more "DSLR like" image, while ILC

> Not to mention that today it seems that every phone is taking advantage of computational image processing in order to give a more "DSLR like" image, while ILC cameras aren't implementing this at all. When it comes to ILC cameras, the role of processing is fulfilled by the photographer's editing software (e.g. Lightroom, Capture One Pro, Photoshop, RawTherapee, Darktable etc.). Especially these days, with the camera market being decimated by smartphones, the kind of person who uses a dedicated camera usually wants control over the processing. > I'm sure in many cases a cellphone camera will shoot a better image than something like your RX100 due to this. The out of camera JPEG on a smartphone might look nicer than an out of camera JPEG on an RX100M6 but after a bit of processing with the right software, the RX100M6 will blow it away. The resolution, dynamic range and noise characteristics are all much better. The RX100M6 can even shoot 24fps RAW for quick HDR brackets if you need it to. Smartphones will definitely produce a nice image easier than a real camera but a real camera in the end, with the right work, still produces a better image.

namibj 8y ago
It's sad that these DSLRs can't yet use the real fast video-mode non-binned sensor readout to just buffer 3 wide bracketed exposures to RAM and then write them out slowly. One of those exposures will be rather long anyway... Shooting HDR quickly has the benefit that while you want something to reduce rotational shake, you don't need to be much longer in the position than the exposure time itself dictates. You can use the time you need to move to a new angle/direction to compress and store the RAWs, as barely anyone has hardware capable of yanking the camera to a new angle in a few milliseconds, just alone due to the power density needed to have something able to do this compact enough for casual handling. Imagine it like a much, much faster clockwork, with the purpose to deliver dozens of kilowatts for a few milliseconds to accelerate the camera and slow it right back down. Almost no one has such a thing that would keep the device steady during the exposure, but permit very short spacing between exposures that change the direction it is pointing by more than 20% FOV. If you were to rotate the camera that fast at over 50fps, good luck with the light you need (hint: your lens can't provide DOF at the aperture you need to do this even in full sunlight (sunny 16 rule)).
- throwaway9d0291 8y ago
  > It's sad that these DSLRs can't yet use the real fast video-mode non-binned sensor readout to just buffer 3 wide bracketed exposures to RAM and then write them out slowly. They essentially can. The A7RIII and RX100M6 can both shoot RAW to their buffers at 24fps then write it out. A full bracket usually takes less than a second and works just fine handheld. > Shooting HDR quickly has the benefit that while you want something to reduce rotational shake, you don't need to be much longer in the position than the exposure time itself dictates. You can use the time you need to move to a new angle/direction to compress and store the RAWs, as barely anyone has hardware capable of yanking the camera to a new angle in a few milliseconds, just alone due to the power density needed to have something able to do this compact enough for casual handling. Imagine it like a much, much faster clockwork, with the purpose to deliver dozens of kilowatts for a few milliseconds to accelerate the camera and slow it right back down. Almost no one has such a thing that would keep the device steady during the exposure, but permit very short spacing between exposures that change the direction it is pointing by more than 20% FOV. If you were to rotate the camera that fast at over 50fps, good luck with the light you need (hint: your lens can't provide DOF at the aperture you need to do this even in full sunlight (sunny 16 rule)). I'm not sure what you're getting at here. It sounds like maybe you're after some kind of automtaed panorama bracketing or something?
  - namibj 8y ago
    Yes, a device for such fast rotating would allow for fast panorama capture, allowing things that are not possible without really fast capture of a high resolution panorama. E.g., things like high resolution 360 degree timelapses, etc.

namibj 8y ago

It's sad that these DSLRs can't yet use the real fast video-mode non-binned sensor readout to just buffer 3 wide bracketed exposures to RAM and then write them out slowly. One of those exposures will be rather long anyway... Shooting HDR quickly has the benefit that while you want something to reduce rotational shake, you don't need to be much longer in the position than the exposure time itself dictates. You can use the time you need to move to a new angle/direction to compress and store the RAWs, as barely anyone has hardware capable of yanking the camera to a new angle in a few milliseconds, just alone due to the power density needed to have something able to do this compact enough for casual handling. Imagine it like a much, much faster clockwork, with the purpose to deliver dozens of kilowatts for a few milliseconds to accelerate the camera and slow it right back down. Almost no one has such a thing that would keep the device steady during the exposure, but permit very short spacing between exposures that change the direction it is pointing by more than 20% FOV. If you were to rotate the camera that fast at over 50fps, good luck with the light you need (hint: your lens can't provide DOF at the aperture you need to do this even in full sunlight (sunny 16 rule)).

throwaway9d0291 8y ago
> It's sad that these DSLRs can't yet use the real fast video-mode non-binned sensor readout to just buffer 3 wide bracketed exposures to RAM and then write them out slowly. They essentially can. The A7RIII and RX100M6 can both shoot RAW to their buffers at 24fps then write it out. A full bracket usually takes less than a second and works just fine handheld. > Shooting HDR quickly has the benefit that while you want something to reduce rotational shake, you don't need to be much longer in the position than the exposure time itself dictates. You can use the time you need to move to a new angle/direction to compress and store the RAWs, as barely anyone has hardware capable of yanking the camera to a new angle in a few milliseconds, just alone due to the power density needed to have something able to do this compact enough for casual handling. Imagine it like a much, much faster clockwork, with the purpose to deliver dozens of kilowatts for a few milliseconds to accelerate the camera and slow it right back down. Almost no one has such a thing that would keep the device steady during the exposure, but permit very short spacing between exposures that change the direction it is pointing by more than 20% FOV. If you were to rotate the camera that fast at over 50fps, good luck with the light you need (hint: your lens can't provide DOF at the aperture you need to do this even in full sunlight (sunny 16 rule)). I'm not sure what you're getting at here. It sounds like maybe you're after some kind of automtaed panorama bracketing or something?
- namibj 8y ago
  Yes, a device for such fast rotating would allow for fast panorama capture, allowing things that are not possible without really fast capture of a high resolution panorama. E.g., things like high resolution 360 degree timelapses, etc.