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So many jokes to be made about Amazon having to contact their AWS representative to get their limits raised, etc.

justicezyx 8y ago
Not sure what you mean, running Amazon retail on AWS is a fact that demonstrates AWS' maturity and Amazon's commitment to have the same infrastructure for internal and external users, which is a bold and long-term-effcient strategy where many cloud providers are struggling to achieve.
- mrep 8y ago
  Except sable is not part of AWS and thus why they couldn't just scale up more servers.
- judge2020 8y ago
  Sable is run on non-AWS infra to prevent a single point of failure for the entire AWS side of the internet. They still likely have an auto-scaling system specifically for Sable, however without the numerous amount of AWS servers that could have been used to auto-scale.
ghshephard 8y ago
I would say the exact opposite. Shouldn't it be the case that Amazon (retail) should have to use the same escalation mechanism for AWS as any other user of AWS? If the escalation/support mechanism is good enough for Amazon Retail, then that's a strong selling proposition for anyone considering AWS for their mission critical operations. And, on the flipside, if it isn't good enough for Amazon retail, then that creates tremendous feedback pressure to fix it.
- AndrewUnmuted 8y ago
  I can confirm. My team at Amazon was a customer of AWS just like every other team at Amazon is. Every department/subsidiary at Amazon charges one another for services provided. We all operated as cost/profit centers. In fact, as far as Amazon policies go, this may be the only one that actually satisfies every Leadership Principle [0]. [0] https://www.amazon.jobs/principles https://www.amazon.jobs/principles
  - halfjoking 8y ago
    Interesting - I wonder if there is a PM at Amazon making deals behind the scenes: "Sure - I'll approve Steve's transfer to your department, as long as you give me 10K free compute hours for your API. Too pricey? I guess you don't want him then."
  - reaperducer 8y ago
    I've seen this in other industries. When I was in television, Westinghouse would charge the television stations it owned for satellite time. The result was that big news from small places often only got to the national or regional desks by Greyhound Package Express. And by then, the news was old, so it rarely made air on the national news. It even happened on a local scale at some stations. The station's own promotions department had a budget and had to purchase commercial time on its own station. (Different company, not Westinghouse.)

Not sure what you mean, running Amazon retail on AWS is a fact that demonstrates AWS' maturity and Amazon's commitment to have the same infrastructure for internal and external users, which is a bold and long-term-effcient strategy where many cloud providers are struggling to achieve.

mrep 8y ago
Except sable is not part of AWS and thus why they couldn't just scale up more servers.
judge2020 8y ago
Sable is run on non-AWS infra to prevent a single point of failure for the entire AWS side of the internet. They still likely have an auto-scaling system specifically for Sable, however without the numerous amount of AWS servers that could have been used to auto-scale.

ghshephard 8y ago

I would say the exact opposite. Shouldn't it be the case that Amazon (retail) should have to use the same escalation mechanism for AWS as any other user of AWS? If the escalation/support mechanism is good enough for Amazon Retail, then that's a strong selling proposition for anyone considering AWS for their mission critical operations. And, on the flipside, if it isn't good enough for Amazon retail, then that creates tremendous feedback pressure to fix it.

AndrewUnmuted 8y ago
I can confirm. My team at Amazon was a customer of AWS just like every other team at Amazon is. Every department/subsidiary at Amazon charges one another for services provided. We all operated as cost/profit centers. In fact, as far as Amazon policies go, this may be the only one that actually satisfies every Leadership Principle [0]. [0] https://www.amazon.jobs/principles https://www.amazon.jobs/principles
- halfjoking 8y ago
  Interesting - I wonder if there is a PM at Amazon making deals behind the scenes: "Sure - I'll approve Steve's transfer to your department, as long as you give me 10K free compute hours for your API. Too pricey? I guess you don't want him then."
- reaperducer 8y ago
  I've seen this in other industries. When I was in television, Westinghouse would charge the television stations it owned for satellite time. The result was that big news from small places often only got to the national or regional desks by Greyhound Package Express. And by then, the news was old, so it rarely made air on the national news. It even happened on a local scale at some stations. The station's own promotions department had a budget and had to purchase commercial time on its own station. (Different company, not Westinghouse.)