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A smile is perceived as sign of weakness. Smiling to sellers, taxi drivers and others in service sector greatly increases the likelihood you'd be taken advantag

by varjag 8y ago

A smile is perceived as sign of weakness. Smiling to sellers, taxi drivers and others in service sector greatly increases the likelihood you'd be taken advantage of. Smiling to law enforcement (except border guards who are used to it) can attract unnecessary attention.

Cadabrum 8y ago
That is not true. In western countries one must smile to be polite, even if the smile doesn't represent his/her current mood. There is no objective reason to render happines in common situation for Russian people. One may smile when he meets a friend or sees some cute kitten, but in general people are walking in some meditation alike state, thinking about the current affairs and not particularly paying attention to the people they passing by. And when russian person meets the grinning stranger with cold eyes (not his real mood). It looks kind of creepy. Ordinary people usually do not pay much attention for this kind of encounters. Police (are you drunk?) and street scammers(are you a tourist?) - do.
- varjag 8y ago
  It has little to do with meditation, it's an ever present tension imposed by simmering-hostile environment that most Russians live in. In the same vein it's a common Russian misconception that Westerners always fake their smiles. They are often genuinely more friendly and chill. And yes, if you smile too much you are taken for лох, even if you are native. Get to an urban market some day and smile to sellers, посчитай на сколько обуют.
nasredin 8y ago
IME it's not weakness. People just don't smile without a reason. And meeting or talking to a stranger is not a proper reason. >>The virile ruler, the vodka, the endless mounds of sour cream—they are pleasing to some. It’s just that grinning without cause is not a skill Russians possess or feel compelled to cultivate. There’s even a Russian proverb that translates, roughly, to “laughing for no reason is a sign of stupidity"
- varjag 8y ago
  Yes, stupidity is a weakness that is ripe to exploit. Thought it was obvious I didn't mean physical forte. Your average street level transaction will degrade if you smile or even too polite.
bcheung 8y ago
I lived in Russia for 2 years as a foreigner. I never noticed and issue with smiling. I think it has more to do with how much of an accent you have when speaking Russian and what you wear. If you are in a tourist area you have to be double aware (especially for little gypsy kids swarming you and pickpocketing). In the tourist areas taxis drivers try to rip you off. I remember an incident where they quoted a price that was really high. I just laughed and started walking away saying I'm not paying more than (1/10th the original price). He promptly agreed without hesitation.
- varjag 8y ago
  As a foreigner you stick out in thousand tiny details that's true. As a grumpy looking foreigner you're better off though.

by varjag 8y ago

Cadabrum 8y ago

That is not true. In western countries one must smile to be polite, even if the smile doesn't represent his/her current mood. There is no objective reason to render happines in common situation for Russian people. One may smile when he meets a friend or sees some cute kitten, but in general people are walking in some meditation alike state, thinking about the current affairs and not particularly paying attention to the people they passing by. And when russian person meets the grinning stranger with cold eyes (not his real mood). It looks kind of creepy. Ordinary people usually do not pay much attention for this kind of encounters. Police (are you drunk?) and street scammers(are you a tourist?) - do.

varjag 8y ago
It has little to do with meditation, it's an ever present tension imposed by simmering-hostile environment that most Russians live in. In the same vein it's a common Russian misconception that Westerners always fake their smiles. They are often genuinely more friendly and chill. And yes, if you smile too much you are taken for лох, even if you are native. Get to an urban market some day and smile to sellers, посчитай на сколько обуют.

nasredin 8y ago

IME it's not weakness. People just don't smile without a reason. And meeting or talking to a stranger is not a proper reason. >>The virile ruler, the vodka, the endless mounds of sour cream—they are pleasing to some. It’s just that grinning without cause is not a skill Russians possess or feel compelled to cultivate. There’s even a Russian proverb that translates, roughly, to “laughing for no reason is a sign of stupidity"

varjag 8y ago
Yes, stupidity is a weakness that is ripe to exploit. Thought it was obvious I didn't mean physical forte. Your average street level transaction will degrade if you smile or even too polite.

bcheung 8y ago

I lived in Russia for 2 years as a foreigner. I never noticed and issue with smiling. I think it has more to do with how much of an accent you have when speaking Russian and what you wear. If you are in a tourist area you have to be double aware (especially for little gypsy kids swarming you and pickpocketing). In the tourist areas taxis drivers try to rip you off. I remember an incident where they quoted a price that was really high. I just laughed and started walking away saying I'm not paying more than (1/10th the original price). He promptly agreed without hesitation.

varjag 8y ago
As a foreigner you stick out in thousand tiny details that's true. As a grumpy looking foreigner you're better off though.