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Fairly safe compared to its neighbor in the South. I know a lot of the Somali refugees in Minnesota who have gotten back on their feet financially have been inv

Fairly safe compared to its neighbor in the South. I know a lot of the Somali refugees in Minnesota who have gotten back on their feet financially have been investing in Somaliland and some are moving back.

barry-cotter 8y ago
You could say the same regarding investing and moving back about Mogadishu, where the UN puppet government has its capital and it is not safe. People just have real affection for their home.
- jeromegv 8y ago
  Except if you read the article you would see it's a fairly safe place, compared to the rest of Somalia.
  - barry-cotter 8y ago
    If all you know about Somaliland comes from reading that article look at the Wikipedia article on Somaliland. More detail, less colour. Ditto for Puntland, which is also safer than any region settled by ethnic Somalis bar Dijibouti. Mogadishu is safe enough that one of my friends spent two months there trying to find business opportunities and her most memorable story was of an argument with a “government” soldier. It’s safer than Congo.
    - Simon_says 8y ago
      > It’s safer than Congo. Uh ... OK
jtchang 8y ago
Out of curiosity how are the investing it in? Going back and starting businesses or sending money?
- Robotbeat 8y ago
  Both, but I was referring to the former.
beerlord 8y ago
Which should really be the point of refugee programs in general. Focus on stabilising and upskilling the refugees, as well as working internationally to stabilise the home country, and then have them return after a few years. Those returnees can then be positive impacts on the entire country. By contrast having people come in and sit on welfare for generations is much less helpful.
- Robotbeat 8y ago
  > By contrast having people come in and sit on welfare for generations is much less helpful. I don't know what country you're from, but this is the opposite of what happens in America. In America, our refugees end up being the engine of growth and innovation as they start businesses and work extremely hard. As long as you LET them work, they will be very productive. Where are you getting your information from?
  - beerlord 8y ago
    Because America is not a welfare state. Look at the levels of welfare reliance by ethnicity in the Netherlands: https://i.imgur.com/FlavTvJ.png https://i.imgur.com/FlavTvJ.png

barry-cotter 8y ago

You could say the same regarding investing and moving back about Mogadishu, where the UN puppet government has its capital and it is not safe. People just have real affection for their home.

jeromegv 8y ago
Except if you read the article you would see it's a fairly safe place, compared to the rest of Somalia.
- barry-cotter 8y ago
  If all you know about Somaliland comes from reading that article look at the Wikipedia article on Somaliland. More detail, less colour. Ditto for Puntland, which is also safer than any region settled by ethnic Somalis bar Dijibouti. Mogadishu is safe enough that one of my friends spent two months there trying to find business opportunities and her most memorable story was of an argument with a “government” soldier. It’s safer than Congo.
  - Simon_says 8y ago
    > It’s safer than Congo. Uh ... OK

jtchang 8y ago

Out of curiosity how are the investing it in? Going back and starting businesses or sending money?

Robotbeat 8y ago
Both, but I was referring to the former.

beerlord 8y ago

Which should really be the point of refugee programs in general. Focus on stabilising and upskilling the refugees, as well as working internationally to stabilise the home country, and then have them return after a few years. Those returnees can then be positive impacts on the entire country. By contrast having people come in and sit on welfare for generations is much less helpful.

Robotbeat 8y ago
> By contrast having people come in and sit on welfare for generations is much less helpful. I don't know what country you're from, but this is the opposite of what happens in America. In America, our refugees end up being the engine of growth and innovation as they start businesses and work extremely hard. As long as you LET them work, they will be very productive. Where are you getting your information from?
- beerlord 8y ago
  Because America is not a welfare state. Look at the levels of welfare reliance by ethnicity in the Netherlands: https://i.imgur.com/FlavTvJ.png https://i.imgur.com/FlavTvJ.png