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I wasn't talking about technological change etc, moreover the USA and Switzerland has a higher immigration rate than us and a bigger immigrant population either

I wasn't talking about technological change etc, moreover the USA and Switzerland has a higher immigration rate than us and a bigger immigrant population either by number or proportion (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/opinion/were-missing-the-long-view-on-immigration/article36823898/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/opinion/were-missing-the... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_St... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Switzerland https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Switzerland). I was talking about how elderly people would get increasingly less of their pensions or benefits if there are less young people to pay govt. taxes in the future because of a declining population below the replacement rate as you can see in Japan. I think you're a bit politically charged in thinking that I was talking about cultural diversity or industrial base, it could be just encouraging more White European immigrants if thats what you want, note that I even said increase more kids from Canadians in my first comment, doesn't have to specify the immigrant population but rather needs to resolve the number of workers per elderly person as I was trying to look at an objective economical data perspective and to increase labour supply via economics. Moreover, continuing on my argument, Canada has an aging population and more seniors than children (https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/what-the-census-tells-us-about-canadas-aging-population/ https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/what-the-census-tells-us...) and it will be hard to maintain productivity with an growing aging population especially if estimates put one in four canadians will be above 65 by 2031 although it can be a flawed projection. Moreover, most Canadian immigrants have to meet quotas as either having some kind of skill or some kind of degree before being able to immigrate, refugees is still a small number so if not economically productive, its not because of lack of skills (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/opinion/were-missing-the-long-view-on-immigration/article36823898/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/opinion/were-missing-the...) https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/opinion/were-missing-the-long-view-on-immigration/article36823898/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/opinion/were-missing-the...

sonnyblarney 8y ago
Neither the US nor Switzerland have a higher immigrant population in the sense that Canada does. The US has many more migrants but they make up a little less of the population. Switzerland has an altogether view on migrants - they have a high rate of 'foreigners' but they are ultimately ex-pats. Canada brings in people to settle, Switzerland brings in people for labour. I have no idea what you are on about regarding 'charged politics' or 'white immigrants'. As someone who actively hires immigrants in Canada from all over the world, I'm aware of the system, their level of education etc. The solution to Canada's aging population is mostly to accept that we are now living a very long time, and most of that time is not productive, which means slightly lower standard of living. Second - more babies and the policies that ensue. Immigration is a helper to the above, not a primary solution.
- forkLding 8y ago
  The reason why I emphasize immigration is because it is much harder and more expensive to increase the supply of babies via policy as the current trend we've seen is of less babies as people become more educated and it takes a much longer time to raise kids until they become productive and their lives may go in the wrong direction in the growing-up process. Its much more easily just to bring in skilled immigrants or immigrants with money and to settle them in Canada and then either get rid or integrate them dependant on their actions.

sonnyblarney 8y ago

Neither the US nor Switzerland have a higher immigrant population in the sense that Canada does. The US has many more migrants but they make up a little less of the population. Switzerland has an altogether view on migrants - they have a high rate of 'foreigners' but they are ultimately ex-pats. Canada brings in people to settle, Switzerland brings in people for labour. I have no idea what you are on about regarding 'charged politics' or 'white immigrants'. As someone who actively hires immigrants in Canada from all over the world, I'm aware of the system, their level of education etc. The solution to Canada's aging population is mostly to accept that we are now living a very long time, and most of that time is not productive, which means slightly lower standard of living. Second - more babies and the policies that ensue. Immigration is a helper to the above, not a primary solution.

forkLding 8y ago
The reason why I emphasize immigration is because it is much harder and more expensive to increase the supply of babies via policy as the current trend we've seen is of less babies as people become more educated and it takes a much longer time to raise kids until they become productive and their lives may go in the wrong direction in the growing-up process. Its much more easily just to bring in skilled immigrants or immigrants with money and to settle them in Canada and then either get rid or integrate them dependant on their actions.