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So I guess it was just luck how he pulled Apple out of the dirt after John Scully almost ran the company to ground?
by qplex 8y ago
So I guess it was just luck how he pulled Apple out of the dirt after John Scully almost ran the company to ground?
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- evgen 8y agoApple I, Mac, Pixar, iPhone.... that guy Jobs was sure a lucky person. I wonder if there is a word for people who have that sort of consistent luck...
- justinjlynn 8y agoYes, there is: outlier.
- evgen 8y agoHow do those sour grapes taste?
- justinjlynn 8y agoGiven that I asked for them, they taste delicious.
- Drdrdrq 8y ago...and iPad, iPod, which were achievements in themselves. I agree with you it's not luck, he simply knew how to create a product that fills the needs of the market. But I also think that his managerial style was unacceptable, and had nothing to do with Apple's success. As far as Pixar is concerned, he actually kept the distance on purpose (there's a great book "Creativity Inc" by Catmull) which shows it's not his management that is worth copying.
- gaius 8y agoI wonder if there is a word for people who have that sort of consistent luck... That word is Woz. If Jobs had not met him, he (Jobs) would have died penniless and alone.
- saagarjha 8y agoHad Wozniak not met Jobs there would have been no Apple–most likely he'd just be a gifted engineer working at an above-average position at some technology company that's likely not even around today because Apple ate its lunch. Also keep in mind that the last product that Wozniak really had a hand in was Apple II.
- amyjess 8y agoI have a feeling that if Woz and Jobs had never met, Woz's life would have turned out much like that of Gary Kildall [0] or Phil Katz [1]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Kildall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Kildall [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Katz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Katz
- scarface74 8y agoWell, let's look at what Jobs did without Woz and compare it to what Woz did without Jobs. Jobs - the Mac, Next, Pixar, iPod, iPhone, iPad, the physical Apple Stores.... Woz - the first universal programmable remote.
- justinjlynn 8y agoWell, let's compare what each of them actually engineered: Woz - Breakout for Atari, the first universal programmable remote, the Apple I, and so on Jobs - ... (had a strong opinion about buttons and money he made off of Wozniak's inventions and his ability to sell them)
- scarface74 8y agoComputer geeks are a dime a dozen (I’m one so no insult intended). An idea is nothing without execution. Jobs proved that he could successfully change multiple industries (animation, music, mobile) without Woz. None of Woz’s ventures have been a success without Jobs. If it was so easy, why couldn’t anyone else in the PC industry do it including companies that were in a much stronger position when Jobs came back in 1997? Even in the animation business, Disney could barely produce a hit while Pixar was producing a string of successes.
- WalterBright 8y agoThere were a string of Apple CEOs between Scully and Jobs.
- saagarjha 8y agoMost of which seemed to dig Apple deeper into the ground…
- WalterBright 8y agoExactly! The history of CEOs at Apple shows very clearly the value that a CEO can bring.