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I don't see what Islam or irrational wiki or racism has to do with unix programming and the book. Your political beliefs contradicting with ones of the author d

I don't see what Islam or irrational wiki or racism has to do with unix programming and the book. Your political beliefs contradicting with ones of the author does not make a programming book bad.

DonHopkins 8y ago
I was directly responding to a question from somebody who didn't know about ESR. Were you previously aware of the fact that Eric Raymond is a batshit crazy racist, or did you just learn something new from me that you didn't previously know? If so, then mission accomplished! I'm glad to have opened your eyes even a little bit. Do my political beliefs about racism being bad and obligatory to call out contradict your own beliefs, and annoy you so much that you're compelled to argue and continue to drag this out? Or do you know some actual facts you can prove about ESR that contradict the proof I posted with links and quotes? Then by all means share your proof I'm wrong, instead of stifling the discussion! Why are you so irritated and motivated to suppress those widely known facts from being mentioned on Hacker News? If simply stating the facts and quoting ESR's own words sounds to you like an ad hominem attack, then that's ESR's problem, and maybe he should have kept his mouth shut instead of publicly saying things like "The average IQ of the Haitian population is 67... Haiti is, quite literally, a country full of violent idiots", and he exercises enough personal responsibility that he doesn't need you to bravely step up and defend his racism. http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7011 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7011 Or is your real issue with the valid criticism I raised about the book (and that you awkwardly ignored and haven't countered) about "In Unix Everything Is A File" being wrong, which is LITERALLY the topic of this conversation, a point many other people are discussing, and a major mistake of the book and the article? If you really believe that my criticism of the book in response to Lordarminius's direct question has "nothing to do with the topic", then why aren't you criticizing Lordarminius for asking me "What's wrong with the book ?" And why aren't you arguing with all the other people here who have pointed out that the API for reading directories is different than the API for reading files, that ioctl is a kitchen sink of non-file-like operations, that many objects in the Unix kernel are simply not files, etc? Or is it just my second criticism of ESR's racism what ticks you off so much that you totally ignored and failed to address my first criticism of his book's factual errors, and incorrectly claimed my reasons for disliking the book are "totally ad hominem"? Go re-read the very first sentence of my reply. I don't see what ESR recasting the Jargon file to reflect his own political beliefs has to do with hacking, but that's what he did, and it's also valid to raise that point when discussing the flaws of other books he wrote. https://news.slashdot.org/story/03/06/08/1534249/esr-recasts-jargon-file-in-own-image https://news.slashdot.org/story/03/06/08/1534249/esr-recasts... http://www.ntk.net/2003/06/06/ http://www.ntk.net/2003/06/06/

I don't see what Islam or irrational wiki or racism has to do with unix programming and the book. Your political beliefs contradicting with ones of the author does not make a programming book bad.

DonHopkins 8y ago

I was directly responding to a question from somebody who didn't know about ESR. Were you previously aware of the fact that Eric Raymond is a batshit crazy racist, or did you just learn something new from me that you didn't previously know? If so, then mission accomplished! I'm glad to have opened your eyes even a little bit. Do my political beliefs about racism being bad and obligatory to call out contradict your own beliefs, and annoy you so much that you're compelled to argue and continue to drag this out? Or do you know some actual facts you can prove about ESR that contradict the proof I posted with links and quotes? Then by all means share your proof I'm wrong, instead of stifling the discussion! Why are you so irritated and motivated to suppress those widely known facts from being mentioned on Hacker News? If simply stating the facts and quoting ESR's own words sounds to you like an ad hominem attack, then that's ESR's problem, and maybe he should have kept his mouth shut instead of publicly saying things like "The average IQ of the Haitian population is 67... Haiti is, quite literally, a country full of violent idiots", and he exercises enough personal responsibility that he doesn't need you to bravely step up and defend his racism. http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7011 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7011 Or is your real issue with the valid criticism I raised about the book (and that you awkwardly ignored and haven't countered) about "In Unix Everything Is A File" being wrong, which is LITERALLY the topic of this conversation, a point many other people are discussing, and a major mistake of the book and the article? If you really believe that my criticism of the book in response to Lordarminius's direct question has "nothing to do with the topic", then why aren't you criticizing Lordarminius for asking me "What's wrong with the book ?" And why aren't you arguing with all the other people here who have pointed out that the API for reading directories is different than the API for reading files, that ioctl is a kitchen sink of non-file-like operations, that many objects in the Unix kernel are simply not files, etc? Or is it just my second criticism of ESR's racism what ticks you off so much that you totally ignored and failed to address my first criticism of his book's factual errors, and incorrectly claimed my reasons for disliking the book are "totally ad hominem"? Go re-read the very first sentence of my reply. I don't see what ESR recasting the Jargon file to reflect his own political beliefs has to do with hacking, but that's what he did, and it's also valid to raise that point when discussing the flaws of other books he wrote. https://news.slashdot.org/story/03/06/08/1534249/esr-recasts-jargon-file-in-own-image https://news.slashdot.org/story/03/06/08/1534249/esr-recasts... http://www.ntk.net/2003/06/06/ http://www.ntk.net/2003/06/06/