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Thailand cave rescue relied on talent, luck, and on sticking to the rules

59 points by jor-el 8y ago

timavr 8y ago
But Elon and his sub....
- defterGoose 8y ago
  As an engineer, I appreciate his willingness to try an unconventional approach in the face of disaster. As a diver and casual bystander, I think he got his ass handed to him and should have left it to the pros.
  - hndamien 8y ago
    My understanding is that he did leave it to the pros.
    - endisukaj 8y ago
      By calling them pedophiles?
      - zaarn 8y ago
        Of course! What else would you call them after they saved several lives and told you that the little gadget you made up on the spot didn't work? There is literally no other choice!!!
  - geezerjay 8y ago
    > As an engineer, I appreciate his willingness to try an unconventional approach in the face of disaster. As an engineer I disagree. His proposal was pathetically devoid of any of the mission's basic requirements and feasibility analysis, and in essence boiled out to nothing more than a maketing ploy to promote his own public image. Pulling that stunt at the expense of a disaster that could have ended with a dozen deaths speaks volumes about his character, as does is smear campaign targeted at one of the divers which went to the extrene of Musk himself accusing him of being a pedophile.
    - joefife 8y ago
      He showed himself to be the narcacist it's obvious he always was. To use the lives (and potential death) of children for PR is abhorant.
- GoToRO 8y ago
  Yeah. In the end his contribution was negative because he wasted people's time and energy. I'm sure he could be sued for that. The good thing was that the government allocated a lot of resources and so it was no impact but imagine if it were a small team wasting time properly testing his sub... Anyway his mistake was that he used a start-up mentality in situation that was not a start-up. You do not try to capture any market, or anything like that. You just want to follow the safest path, the things that you used, understand and that work.
  - evfanknitram 8y ago
    > I'm sure he could be sued for that. You can be sued for watering your flowers too much.
cryptos 8y ago
I wonder if it would have been possible to blast a bigger hole in the rock to get the victims out more easily?
mmanfrin 8y ago
As frightening as it was for the kids+coach, and as sad is it was to lose the SEAL trying to rescue them, situations like this are nice for the world once in a while. For a moment we can stop paying so much attention to the maelstrom of politics we're in to focus on a cause we're all (globally) rooting for; shine a light on the stressed trials humans can overcome when actions and problem solving are needed in a snap.

59 points by jor-el 8y ago

timavr 8y ago

But Elon and his sub....

defterGoose 8y ago
As an engineer, I appreciate his willingness to try an unconventional approach in the face of disaster. As a diver and casual bystander, I think he got his ass handed to him and should have left it to the pros.
- hndamien 8y ago
  My understanding is that he did leave it to the pros.
  - endisukaj 8y ago
    By calling them pedophiles?
    - zaarn 8y ago
      Of course! What else would you call them after they saved several lives and told you that the little gadget you made up on the spot didn't work? There is literally no other choice!!!
- geezerjay 8y ago
  > As an engineer, I appreciate his willingness to try an unconventional approach in the face of disaster. As an engineer I disagree. His proposal was pathetically devoid of any of the mission's basic requirements and feasibility analysis, and in essence boiled out to nothing more than a maketing ploy to promote his own public image. Pulling that stunt at the expense of a disaster that could have ended with a dozen deaths speaks volumes about his character, as does is smear campaign targeted at one of the divers which went to the extrene of Musk himself accusing him of being a pedophile.
  - joefife 8y ago
    He showed himself to be the narcacist it's obvious he always was. To use the lives (and potential death) of children for PR is abhorant.
GoToRO 8y ago
Yeah. In the end his contribution was negative because he wasted people's time and energy. I'm sure he could be sued for that. The good thing was that the government allocated a lot of resources and so it was no impact but imagine if it were a small team wasting time properly testing his sub... Anyway his mistake was that he used a start-up mentality in situation that was not a start-up. You do not try to capture any market, or anything like that. You just want to follow the safest path, the things that you used, understand and that work.
- evfanknitram 8y ago
  > I'm sure he could be sued for that. You can be sued for watering your flowers too much.

cryptos 8y ago

I wonder if it would have been possible to blast a bigger hole in the rock to get the victims out more easily?

mmanfrin 8y ago

As frightening as it was for the kids+coach, and as sad is it was to lose the SEAL trying to rescue them, situations like this are nice for the world once in a while. For a moment we can stop paying so much attention to the maelstrom of politics we're in to focus on a cause we're all (globally) rooting for; shine a light on the stressed trials humans can overcome when actions and problem solving are needed in a snap.