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> somehow they could be convinced to vote for a guy who is part of the elite You're politically left, that's why you don't see it. This is your blindspot. Tru

> somehow they could be convinced to vote for a guy who is part of the elite You're politically left, that's why you don't see it. This is your blindspot. Trump could be the leader of the elites, but he doesn't act, or talk like the 'elite', and most important of all, nearly all the elites genuinely loathe and hate him. Bloomberg is part of the elite. If Bloomberg ran for election then the site which hates elite will not vote for him. In fact, even if he did talk exactly like how Bloomberg, Laureen Powell Jobs, Zuckerberg, Hillary Clinton, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, etc talk, he is the anti-elite because all the elites hate him. It's sad that the who explicitly prefixes his claim as 'dare I say' is being downvoted because you don't like what he said.

maxxxxx 8y ago
In what sense is Trump not elite? He was born elite, grew up elite and does things for the elite. In the context of the US being governed by and for the rich he is part of that trend. Maybe he uses different talk than the elite you mention. But they all have the same interest which is to amass as much money as they can in their own hands. None of these people cares about making life better for the average citizen. Maybe they do in an abstract sense but do nothing (like me caring for poor people around the world and doing nothing). The elite are the people with money. They have the real power.
- splintercell 8y ago
  > In what sense is Trump not elite? When did I say that he is not elite? That wasn't even remotely my point.
  - maxxxxx 8y ago
    What was your point? I am curious.
    - splintercell 8y ago
      Ok lets put it this way. Lets just say it is discovered that Jesus was actually a banker himself. Does that really change the fact that he purged the bankers/money changers form the temple of Jersualem? And because he did that, do anti-bankers and money changers care about the fact that Jesus himself was a banker and a money changer? Especially since the banker community repeatedly comes to the television and talks about how Jesus is breaking the fabric of our society and throws a barrage of anti-Jesus message through media? Look, Bernie Sanders made $1 million second year in a row, but do Democratic Socialists care about it? He is far richer than most of his followers would ever be, but if Jeff Bezos writes Editorials talking about how horrible Bernie Sanders is, then it just gives Bernie more credibility, irrespective of his newfound wealth.
      - maxxxxx 8y ago
        The anti bankers should care if Jesus was a banker, did not purge the bankers from the temple but the only thing he did was not to talk like a banker. I think we are talking about the same thing. Watch what people do, not what they say and not where they come from. Trump got elected by the little guy because he talked for the little guy but in reality he is another rich guy who acts for his people.
pupppet 8y ago
I’m not sure why it matters who loves/hates him or what to classify him as. Only his actions matter and his actions are propping up the 1%.
PopsiclePete 8y ago
Trump is a billionaire. He doesn't just go have a Miller Lite and listen to country music after "work", ya know? He screws super-models, has the "taste" of a Russian Oligarch/Arab Sheikh (most likely shits from a golden toilet) and can casually eat steak that probably costs more than what his adoring fans make in a week. The truly sad part of everything you said is that Trump is a "man of the people" because he makes "Librul tears" flow and because he speaks like a simpleton. And that's truly sad. There was a time when "men of the people" could string together coherent thoughts, speeches, hell, they wrote books even, to inspire others. Now it takes a quick little angry Tweet aimed at Mexico, Muslims and/or something Bezos did and American blue-collar types get their panties wet immediately. It's so, so, so very sad, especially because there was another populist who didn't appeal to the worst dregs of America exclusively and who also was an outsider who could've shaken things up a bit. Wasn't meant to be, I guess.
- sctb 8y ago
  If you keep posting unsubstantive inflammatory comments like this we'll ban the account. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

maxxxxx 8y ago

In what sense is Trump not elite? He was born elite, grew up elite and does things for the elite. In the context of the US being governed by and for the rich he is part of that trend. Maybe he uses different talk than the elite you mention. But they all have the same interest which is to amass as much money as they can in their own hands. None of these people cares about making life better for the average citizen. Maybe they do in an abstract sense but do nothing (like me caring for poor people around the world and doing nothing). The elite are the people with money. They have the real power.

splintercell 8y ago
> In what sense is Trump not elite? When did I say that he is not elite? That wasn't even remotely my point.
- maxxxxx 8y ago
  What was your point? I am curious.
  - splintercell 8y ago
    Ok lets put it this way. Lets just say it is discovered that Jesus was actually a banker himself. Does that really change the fact that he purged the bankers/money changers form the temple of Jersualem? And because he did that, do anti-bankers and money changers care about the fact that Jesus himself was a banker and a money changer? Especially since the banker community repeatedly comes to the television and talks about how Jesus is breaking the fabric of our society and throws a barrage of anti-Jesus message through media? Look, Bernie Sanders made $1 million second year in a row, but do Democratic Socialists care about it? He is far richer than most of his followers would ever be, but if Jeff Bezos writes Editorials talking about how horrible Bernie Sanders is, then it just gives Bernie more credibility, irrespective of his newfound wealth.
    - maxxxxx 8y ago
      The anti bankers should care if Jesus was a banker, did not purge the bankers from the temple but the only thing he did was not to talk like a banker. I think we are talking about the same thing. Watch what people do, not what they say and not where they come from. Trump got elected by the little guy because he talked for the little guy but in reality he is another rich guy who acts for his people.

pupppet 8y ago

I’m not sure why it matters who loves/hates him or what to classify him as. Only his actions matter and his actions are propping up the 1%.

PopsiclePete 8y ago

Trump is a billionaire. He doesn't just go have a Miller Lite and listen to country music after "work", ya know? He screws super-models, has the "taste" of a Russian Oligarch/Arab Sheikh (most likely shits from a golden toilet) and can casually eat steak that probably costs more than what his adoring fans make in a week. The truly sad part of everything you said is that Trump is a "man of the people" because he makes "Librul tears" flow and because he speaks like a simpleton. And that's truly sad. There was a time when "men of the people" could string together coherent thoughts, speeches, hell, they wrote books even, to inspire others. Now it takes a quick little angry Tweet aimed at Mexico, Muslims and/or something Bezos did and American blue-collar types get their panties wet immediately. It's so, so, so very sad, especially because there was another populist who didn't appeal to the worst dregs of America exclusively and who also was an outsider who could've shaken things up a bit. Wasn't meant to be, I guess.

sctb 8y ago
If you keep posting unsubstantive inflammatory comments like this we'll ban the account. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html