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I wonder why it is that linux distros having centralized package management is seen as a good thing, but the windows store is reviled by all

locusm 8y ago
Linux informs you that an update is available. Windows doesn't care that you're in a call to a client, update all the things. That was on a Windows 10 build from a year ago, not sure if things have improved.
- earenndil 8y ago
  Not the os updates, the application updates. And fwiw I use linux primarily and think it's overall much better; but I still think it's a bit curious.
- prolikewh0a 8y ago
  Windows still doesn't care, it updates when it wants, even if you're in the middle of doing things. I was in the middle of my companies earnings report a few months ago and it popped up the "We're going to update in 5 minutes, please close everything" with no option to delay or cancel. It shut down and I missed a good 30 minutes while it was updating. Really good for productivity and work (/s). I am now fully Linux except on my gaming PC at home which is rarely even turned on.
lykr0n 8y ago
I can install any Repo i want and pull packages I want from there. Windows has a closed monopoly where you only have one choice, where I can use any Fedora/Ubuntu mirror I want (I can even make my own).
maccam94 8y ago
The Windows store has a single repository and it has fees and restrictions. On Linux, you can typically add many repositories to the package manager, so there's no lock-in.
flukus 8y ago
On a distro like ubuntu the updates are basically just security and some bug fixes. Opening an application and finding the UI's been shuffled around doesn't happen often (firefox aside). The updates are also usually pretty small thanks to the package manager and the ability to dynamically link libraries, you can typically update a whole system and download will be about the same size as updating a typical windows app. It's also truly centralized, so the OS updates come through the same channel as the app updates, there is one way to do things. Windows store is still not centralized, some apps will update themselves, some will through the store, some from windows update and some from click once, which still seems to be the only viable enterprise option (oh how I wish for a corporate package repo). Sadly some of these issues are already starting to push into the linux world through things like docker and snap packages, where things like UI changes can be pushed onto users. There's also the current invasion of software that only (practically) statically compiles so installs/updates will become much more bloated.

locusm 8y ago

Linux informs you that an update is available. Windows doesn't care that you're in a call to a client, update all the things. That was on a Windows 10 build from a year ago, not sure if things have improved.

earenndil 8y ago
Not the os updates, the application updates. And fwiw I use linux primarily and think it's overall much better; but I still think it's a bit curious.
prolikewh0a 8y ago
Windows still doesn't care, it updates when it wants, even if you're in the middle of doing things. I was in the middle of my companies earnings report a few months ago and it popped up the "We're going to update in 5 minutes, please close everything" with no option to delay or cancel. It shut down and I missed a good 30 minutes while it was updating. Really good for productivity and work (/s). I am now fully Linux except on my gaming PC at home which is rarely even turned on.

lykr0n 8y ago

I can install any Repo i want and pull packages I want from there. Windows has a closed monopoly where you only have one choice, where I can use any Fedora/Ubuntu mirror I want (I can even make my own).

maccam94 8y ago

The Windows store has a single repository and it has fees and restrictions. On Linux, you can typically add many repositories to the package manager, so there's no lock-in.

flukus 8y ago

On a distro like ubuntu the updates are basically just security and some bug fixes. Opening an application and finding the UI's been shuffled around doesn't happen often (firefox aside). The updates are also usually pretty small thanks to the package manager and the ability to dynamically link libraries, you can typically update a whole system and download will be about the same size as updating a typical windows app. It's also truly centralized, so the OS updates come through the same channel as the app updates, there is one way to do things. Windows store is still not centralized, some apps will update themselves, some will through the store, some from windows update and some from click once, which still seems to be the only viable enterprise option (oh how I wish for a corporate package repo). Sadly some of these issues are already starting to push into the linux world through things like docker and snap packages, where things like UI changes can be pushed onto users. There's also the current invasion of software that only (practically) statically compiles so installs/updates will become much more bloated.