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Guy in Charge of EU Copyright Directive, Evasive About His Own Use of Images

67 points by severine 8y ago

cocacola1 8y ago
The more stringent copyright seems to get, the more I seem to support piracy.
- bArray 8y ago
  I started to embrace the lack of control in the media I created years ago, I accept the fact that by using the internet to share media I lose ownership when I allow people to make copies (even temporary). It will be pirated, evasive actions only slow it down. I remember when picture websites used to disable right click and we either used to screenshot images or get them from the source. I remember when Youtube went to tonnes of effort to prevent people ripping videos from their site, only to be defeated by screen recording software. People listening to their favourite songs on the radio used to just record them on their phone's microphone. When people start thinking of the internet as the Wild West it is, they might start actually appreciating how dangerous it is to be interacting with. I have bots smashing my website 24/7 crawling data for various search engines, I have people mass downloading content, bots trying to spam my site, bots trying to hack my site (mainly PHP), using proxies, VPNs, Tor, etc. And that's just on port 80. Port 22...
AdamM12 8y ago
Legislators not understanding tech and doing the same thing they seek to control...par for the course.
mirimir 8y ago
Not that I want to defend the guy, but doesn't posting images on Twitter typically fall under fair use?
- nordsieck 8y ago
  No. > You retain your rights to any Content you submit, post or display on or through the Services. > ... > By submitting, posting or displaying Content on or through the Services, you grant us a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license (with the right to sublicense) to use, copy, reproduce, process, adapt, modify, publish, transmit, display and distribute such Content in any and all media or distribution methods (now known or later developed). [0] This grant doesn't apply to unaffiliated third parties. [0] https://twitter.com/en/tos https://twitter.com/en/tos
  - mirimir 8y ago
    Well, then, Twitter is a morass of copyright violation ;) Edit: But wait. Can't using images on personal websites be fair use? Is it just the Twitter ToS that makes it illegal?
    - zaarn 8y ago
      Atleast in Europe there is no fair use per-se (though it's complex and various stuff is exempted). The Twitter ToS merely says that if you upload something, it's still yours and that Twitter gets a license to show others what you posted (otherwise it would be silly to upload)
- probably_wrong 8y ago
  There is no fair use provision in Europe. There are some exceptions to copyright, such as parody, but posting on Twitter is not a blanket defense.

67 points by severine 8y ago

cocacola1 8y ago

The more stringent copyright seems to get, the more I seem to support piracy.

bArray 8y ago
I started to embrace the lack of control in the media I created years ago, I accept the fact that by using the internet to share media I lose ownership when I allow people to make copies (even temporary). It will be pirated, evasive actions only slow it down. I remember when picture websites used to disable right click and we either used to screenshot images or get them from the source. I remember when Youtube went to tonnes of effort to prevent people ripping videos from their site, only to be defeated by screen recording software. People listening to their favourite songs on the radio used to just record them on their phone's microphone. When people start thinking of the internet as the Wild West it is, they might start actually appreciating how dangerous it is to be interacting with. I have bots smashing my website 24/7 crawling data for various search engines, I have people mass downloading content, bots trying to spam my site, bots trying to hack my site (mainly PHP), using proxies, VPNs, Tor, etc. And that's just on port 80. Port 22...

AdamM12 8y ago

Legislators not understanding tech and doing the same thing they seek to control...par for the course.

mirimir 8y ago

Not that I want to defend the guy, but doesn't posting images on Twitter typically fall under fair use?

nordsieck 8y ago
No. > You retain your rights to any Content you submit, post or display on or through the Services. > ... > By submitting, posting or displaying Content on or through the Services, you grant us a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license (with the right to sublicense) to use, copy, reproduce, process, adapt, modify, publish, transmit, display and distribute such Content in any and all media or distribution methods (now known or later developed). [0] This grant doesn't apply to unaffiliated third parties. [0] https://twitter.com/en/tos https://twitter.com/en/tos
- mirimir 8y ago
  Well, then, Twitter is a morass of copyright violation ;) Edit: But wait. Can't using images on personal websites be fair use? Is it just the Twitter ToS that makes it illegal?
  - zaarn 8y ago
    Atleast in Europe there is no fair use per-se (though it's complex and various stuff is exempted). The Twitter ToS merely says that if you upload something, it's still yours and that Twitter gets a license to show others what you posted (otherwise it would be silly to upload)
probably_wrong 8y ago
There is no fair use provision in Europe. There are some exceptions to copyright, such as parody, but posting on Twitter is not a blanket defense.