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For others that didn't notice this new and somewhat less expensive version come out, here's the HN thread from 2 months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?i

For others that didn't notice this new and somewhat less expensive version come out, here's the HN thread from 2 months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17124593 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17124593

pdonis 8y ago
> somewhat less expensive Only in the sense that the Atlantic Ocean has "somewhat less water" than the Pacific. :-) Over $4K for a "desktop development system". That's not personal computing. That's small scale enterprise computing, which is too small a market to make a dent in Intel and AMD. Their prices need to come down by an order of magnitude to make this technology a significant player.
- kev009 8y ago
  Huh? It's under $2k for a daily drivable config. $1600 if you are willing to do a 2.1 rev chip without HW speculative execution mitigations and some other errata.
  - pdonis 8y ago
    > It's under $2k for a daily drivable config. Which config are you talking about?
    - kev009 8y ago
      Check the link in my original post and the child comment. You can buy DDR4-R and NVMe cheaply from places like Superbiiz. Here is the special DD2.1 box https://secure.raptorcs.com/content/TLSDS1/intro.html https://secure.raptorcs.com/content/TLSDS1/intro.html for $1600.
      - pdonis 8y ago
        With a "starter CPU" that doesn't support virtualization, so realistically you're paying another $375 for a CPU upgrade. Still quite a bit closer to a useful price point, though. Thanks for the link!
        kev009 8y ago
        You state this as if I didn't so I'm confused by that :S. Regardless it is possible to do a full build for under $2k, especially if you have any resuable parts like case/psu/nvme.
        pdonis 8y ago
        > You state this as if I didn't You mentioned the base CPU not having HW speculative execution mitigations (which I also would consider worth a CPU upgrade to get), but not having virtualization is a much bigger limitation, in my view, and you didn't mention that, so I did.

pdonis 8y ago

> somewhat less expensive Only in the sense that the Atlantic Ocean has "somewhat less water" than the Pacific. :-) Over $4K for a "desktop development system". That's not personal computing. That's small scale enterprise computing, which is too small a market to make a dent in Intel and AMD. Their prices need to come down by an order of magnitude to make this technology a significant player.

kev009 8y ago
Huh? It's under $2k for a daily drivable config. $1600 if you are willing to do a 2.1 rev chip without HW speculative execution mitigations and some other errata.
- pdonis 8y ago
  > It's under $2k for a daily drivable config. Which config are you talking about?
  - kev009 8y ago
    Check the link in my original post and the child comment. You can buy DDR4-R and NVMe cheaply from places like Superbiiz. Here is the special DD2.1 box https://secure.raptorcs.com/content/TLSDS1/intro.html https://secure.raptorcs.com/content/TLSDS1/intro.html for $1600.
    - pdonis 8y ago
      With a "starter CPU" that doesn't support virtualization, so realistically you're paying another $375 for a CPU upgrade. Still quite a bit closer to a useful price point, though. Thanks for the link!
      - kev009 8y ago
        You state this as if I didn't so I'm confused by that :S. Regardless it is possible to do a full build for under $2k, especially if you have any resuable parts like case/psu/nvme.
        pdonis 8y ago
        > You state this as if I didn't You mentioned the base CPU not having HW speculative execution mitigations (which I also would consider worth a CPU upgrade to get), but not having virtualization is a much bigger limitation, in my view, and you didn't mention that, so I did.