4 ms·

There is no link between high cholesterol and heart disease, I.e. correlation is not causation. If we are speaking of anecdotes, I eat a lot of fat, I’m on a k

There is no link between high cholesterol and heart disease, I.e. correlation is not causation. If we are speaking of anecdotes, I eat a lot of fat, I’m on a keto diet and my cholesterol dropped to normal after I began keto. And this is actually consistent with the claims of high fat proponents... that it’s insulin that triggers the metabolic syndrome, causing problems with LDL too, and insulin levels and resistance go up because of the sugars and the refined carbs in our diet.

cageface 8y ago
Fats and protein also stimulate insulin release and a steak triggers a bigger insulin response than a bowl of white pasta. Check any chart of insulin responses to confirm this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin_index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin_index Losing weight by any means will lower your cholesterol. But the typical high fat low carb keto diet has the highest mortality rate of any popular diet.
- bad_user 8y ago
  Protein stimulates insulin, but fat does not ;-) This is why modern low-carbs diets are "high fat, moderate protein". Also, this is NOT a war against all carbohydrates, but against refined carbohydrates, like sugar (corn syrup) or white flour. These refined carbohydrates in our daily diet have raised the insulin resistance of the population to the point that we have a type 2 diabetes and obesity epidemic on our hands and the problem is worse year by year. N.B. our bodies can recover from insulin resistance, there are numerous reports of people with type 2 diabetes getting rid of their disease after a low carb diet. However it can take years for your metabolism to go back to normal and in the meantime things like potatoes (which otherwise are healthy and satiating) are unfortunately bad for you. Of course, you can blame refined carbs for damaging your body, and NOT potatoes. > But the typical high fat low carb keto diet has the highest mortality rate of any popular diet. That's a myth. Show me the evidence. On the other hand, this is my favorite study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28515068 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28515068
  - cageface 8y ago
    He links seven studies showing increased mortality from keto diets here: https://medium.com/thrive-global/the-skeleton-in-the-ketogenic-diet-closet-what-virta-health-mark-sisson-joseph-mercola-and-704fad8bffd7 https://medium.com/thrive-global/the-skeleton-in-the-ketogen... We agree that refined carbs are a bad idea but avoiding complex carbs is also a bad idea. Plus you should at least consider that a diet high in animal products has a massively higher environmental footprint than a plant based diet. If everybody ate the way most keto proponents suggest we should then we as a planet and species would be screwed.

cageface 8y ago

Fats and protein also stimulate insulin release and a steak triggers a bigger insulin response than a bowl of white pasta. Check any chart of insulin responses to confirm this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin_index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin_index Losing weight by any means will lower your cholesterol. But the typical high fat low carb keto diet has the highest mortality rate of any popular diet.

bad_user 8y ago
Protein stimulates insulin, but fat does not ;-) This is why modern low-carbs diets are "high fat, moderate protein". Also, this is NOT a war against all carbohydrates, but against refined carbohydrates, like sugar (corn syrup) or white flour. These refined carbohydrates in our daily diet have raised the insulin resistance of the population to the point that we have a type 2 diabetes and obesity epidemic on our hands and the problem is worse year by year. N.B. our bodies can recover from insulin resistance, there are numerous reports of people with type 2 diabetes getting rid of their disease after a low carb diet. However it can take years for your metabolism to go back to normal and in the meantime things like potatoes (which otherwise are healthy and satiating) are unfortunately bad for you. Of course, you can blame refined carbs for damaging your body, and NOT potatoes. > But the typical high fat low carb keto diet has the highest mortality rate of any popular diet. That's a myth. Show me the evidence. On the other hand, this is my favorite study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28515068 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28515068
- cageface 8y ago
  He links seven studies showing increased mortality from keto diets here: https://medium.com/thrive-global/the-skeleton-in-the-ketogenic-diet-closet-what-virta-health-mark-sisson-joseph-mercola-and-704fad8bffd7 https://medium.com/thrive-global/the-skeleton-in-the-ketogen... We agree that refined carbs are a bad idea but avoiding complex carbs is also a bad idea. Plus you should at least consider that a diet high in animal products has a massively higher environmental footprint than a plant based diet. If everybody ate the way most keto proponents suggest we should then we as a planet and species would be screwed.