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I'm sorry, I don't mean to laugh, but when the Forbes article author was complaining about a random unplanned forced update I thought surely the guy just didn't

I'm sorry, I don't mean to laugh, but when the Forbes article author was complaining about a random unplanned forced update I thought surely the guy just didn't bother to change the default settings. Now I've come to your comment and am now realizing that apparently there is no built in functionality to prevent forced update/reboots (while connected to the internet) in Windows 10. I not crazy anti-Microsoft, but that's absurd and honestly aside from gaming (which I don't have a gaming PC anyways) I miss nothing from Windows. I see comments about Linux on random laptops, I've only have had good experiences with it generally. I'm not a power user. I've run at least one distro or another on a random cheap netbook, a 2005-08 Sony laptop, a low end and higher end Lenovo laptops, and honestly other than the one I'm on right now I've not had the problems people talk about it (something related to the CPU was crashing the system, found a solution online and everything is good now). Maybe I'm just lucky.

marsokod 8y ago
The worst part is that there is a setting for it (at least on the pro version). However, even with it selected I see an automatic reboot every three or four months. And that is by applying updates when I happen to work on it. And there is nothing to disable the shortcuts or installation of silly program like candy crush. I remember reading something about a Windows 10 edition without all this crap, but it was only for very big accounts and with a specific contract with Microsoft.
- iknowverylittle 8y ago
  That's awful. I don't want come across as trying to convert or be rude, but what does Windows provide, both home users and businesses, that open source operating systems are unable to do? As someone just kind of starting out, is Windows promising for future career building? I understand backwards compatibly and larger selection of games, and that hardware manufacturers will provide software.
  - btschaegg 8y ago
    Nothing really, except for mindshare. Turns out, that's a huge factor that sadly cannot be overcome that easily (especially for organizations with less technically inclined people). If you look at the big IT stories around OSS (e.g. LiMux; in Switzerland there was a similar story in Solothurn), you'll find that the reason for those failures usually comes down to people refusing to give OSS the benefit of the doubt, often combined with incompetent project management.
    - iknowverylittle 8y ago
      This is the first I've heard of LiMux. What a frustrating tragedy, and presumably due to a little corruption. Open source software could be perfect for government operations. You could have a free open set of standards at all levels ensuring compatibility with everyone. Each entity being able to improve the software for their needs and potentially sharing it with other governments (city/state gov. trading between each other). And while probably saving a bundle, both in software AND hardware costs because no force obsolescences of hardware due to updates in software.
  - marsokod 8y ago
    Windows does not seem to be aimed at power users anymore, unless they are in a big company environment. You can manage which updates are sent, and when, if you have a Windows server distributing the updates. But that is overkill for small companies.

marsokod 8y ago

The worst part is that there is a setting for it (at least on the pro version). However, even with it selected I see an automatic reboot every three or four months. And that is by applying updates when I happen to work on it. And there is nothing to disable the shortcuts or installation of silly program like candy crush. I remember reading something about a Windows 10 edition without all this crap, but it was only for very big accounts and with a specific contract with Microsoft.

iknowverylittle 8y ago
That's awful. I don't want come across as trying to convert or be rude, but what does Windows provide, both home users and businesses, that open source operating systems are unable to do? As someone just kind of starting out, is Windows promising for future career building? I understand backwards compatibly and larger selection of games, and that hardware manufacturers will provide software.
- btschaegg 8y ago
  Nothing really, except for mindshare. Turns out, that's a huge factor that sadly cannot be overcome that easily (especially for organizations with less technically inclined people). If you look at the big IT stories around OSS (e.g. LiMux; in Switzerland there was a similar story in Solothurn), you'll find that the reason for those failures usually comes down to people refusing to give OSS the benefit of the doubt, often combined with incompetent project management.
  - iknowverylittle 8y ago
    This is the first I've heard of LiMux. What a frustrating tragedy, and presumably due to a little corruption. Open source software could be perfect for government operations. You could have a free open set of standards at all levels ensuring compatibility with everyone. Each entity being able to improve the software for their needs and potentially sharing it with other governments (city/state gov. trading between each other). And while probably saving a bundle, both in software AND hardware costs because no force obsolescences of hardware due to updates in software.
- marsokod 8y ago
  Windows does not seem to be aimed at power users anymore, unless they are in a big company environment. You can manage which updates are sent, and when, if you have a Windows server distributing the updates. But that is overkill for small companies.