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Think of moderators as shop owners, they reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. When you enter their shop you accept their authority and the fact that
by noncoml 8y ago
Think of moderators as shop owners, they reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.
When you enter their shop you accept their authority and the fact that you can be thrown out at any point with any explanation.
- Fnoord 8y agoIs a shop owner allowed to say to someone: you're a foreigner, I don't want you in my shop? Is a shop owner allowed to say to someone: I don't like the color of your eyes, please leave my shop? Color of skin? Where do you draw the line? A shop owner has an interest to having you as customer because it directly increases their sales. A Reddit mod doesn't protect commercial interests. In both cases though if your presence allows for opportunity, you'll remain welcome, within social rules of course (HN example [1]). Similar social rules apply on the Internet. I see the Internet as small religious "enclaves". Certain viewpoints are going to be unwelcome or downright impossible to argue otherwise (they differ per "enclave"). For example, if I go to a religious forum or church to defend my -ism (atheism or agnosticism) I likely get banned as troll even if I am very serious and kind. Why? It goes against premises that group -as being part of that- agrees upon. If you go to "A small subreddit inhabited by funky "spiritual" types." those premises also exist, even if they're not logical to you or go against scientific consensus or certain common razors. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- golemiprague 8y agoA bit like not wanting to sell cake to gays? or even worst, deny service to someone just because of his political affiliation? I got banned many times because I have aired conservative views in mainstream subs like r/worldnews, i just create a new user and do what i do. This censoring is just idiotic, but I don't care, there are ways around it.
- emilfihlman 8y agoThis is 100% not the case with real shops, you cannot be thrown out simply because the owner wants to. It's also still not right.
- noncoml 8y agoI am pretty sure that this is the case, at least in the US, with some exceptions(discrimination laws). > It's also still not right. No, it is not right, but just like a shop-owner, a forum moderator will not ban you randomly because she has an interest running a popular forum. If one gets banned from a community(online or not), in most cases it's because they didn't adhere to the written or unwritten laws of the community, or pissed off someone high in the pecking order. Communities are not democracies, but my guess is that even if they were, a big majority of those who get banned would be ostracized anyway.
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- cecja 8y agoEvery property owner has the right to ban you from their property or to decline service.