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I am not sure if providing benefits would offset the temptation to earn 3.5k extra income. Case in point, This guy is an army vet so presumably he already has h

I am not sure if providing benefits would offset the temptation to earn 3.5k extra income. Case in point, This guy is an army vet so presumably he already has health benefits. > treating all your citizens non citizen population need benefits too.

DoreenMichele 8y ago
Gargac began driving for Uber, and occasionally Lyft, in early March. He was livestreaming all of his rides by the end of that month. That $3.5k in extra income is over the course of about 3.5 months or so. Call it an extra $1000/month. A quick google tells me that health insurance costs average around $321 or $558 per month for an individual and $833 per month for a family, plus there is a multi-thousand dollar annual deductible. [2] Sounds to me like, yes, universal basic health coverage absolutely could help someone resist the temptation for that amount of money. Edit: I will note the article indicates he is 32, so while he's a veteran, he's not a military retiree. He likely doesn't have military medical benefits. non citizen population need benefits too. I don't disagree with you.[2] I'm just shooting for the low hanging fruit first that hopefully more people will readily agree on. [1] https://gusto.com/framework/health-benefits/how-much-is-health-insurance/ https://gusto.com/framework/health-benefits/how-much-is-heal... [2] https://twitter.com/doreen_michele/status/1020750937931911168 https://twitter.com/doreen_michele/status/102075093793191116...
- setr 8y ago
  >Sounds to me like, yes, universal basic health coverage absolutely could help someone resist the temptation for that amount of money. ...if you give someone any amount of money, it will help resist the temptation for more money, unless they're already not interested in money in the first place. So, yes, universal health care would do the trick, as would a flat reimbursement, or lower prices on goods/services (effectively more money), as would any other manner of lessening the amount of money they need.
- dominotw 8y ago
  > Sounds to me like, yes, universal basic health coverage absolutely could help someone resist the temptation for that amount of money. Your thesis basically is that this could never happen in Canada or happens less frequently in canada. It could be true. But there seem to be lots of these in canada too https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/uber-scam-driver-police-1.4458321 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/uber-scam-driver-polic...
  - DoreenMichele 8y ago
    My thesis is more like "You can't reasonably assume he is merely a malicious ass hat given the crap going on in the US today and the lack of certain details in the article." I'm not saying such people don't exist. I'm just saying that when the system actively makes it hard enough to survive while doing things the world would approve of, don't be all shocked when some folks stop caring about the world's approval and start caring more about their bottom line.

DoreenMichele 8y ago

Gargac began driving for Uber, and occasionally Lyft, in early March. He was livestreaming all of his rides by the end of that month. That $3.5k in extra income is over the course of about 3.5 months or so. Call it an extra $1000/month. A quick google tells me that health insurance costs average around $321 or $558 per month for an individual and $833 per month for a family, plus there is a multi-thousand dollar annual deductible. [2] Sounds to me like, yes, universal basic health coverage absolutely could help someone resist the temptation for that amount of money. Edit: I will note the article indicates he is 32, so while he's a veteran, he's not a military retiree. He likely doesn't have military medical benefits. non citizen population need benefits too. I don't disagree with you.[2] I'm just shooting for the low hanging fruit first that hopefully more people will readily agree on. [1] https://gusto.com/framework/health-benefits/how-much-is-health-insurance/ https://gusto.com/framework/health-benefits/how-much-is-heal... [2] https://twitter.com/doreen_michele/status/1020750937931911168 https://twitter.com/doreen_michele/status/102075093793191116...

setr 8y ago
>Sounds to me like, yes, universal basic health coverage absolutely could help someone resist the temptation for that amount of money. ...if you give someone any amount of money, it will help resist the temptation for more money, unless they're already not interested in money in the first place. So, yes, universal health care would do the trick, as would a flat reimbursement, or lower prices on goods/services (effectively more money), as would any other manner of lessening the amount of money they need.
dominotw 8y ago
> Sounds to me like, yes, universal basic health coverage absolutely could help someone resist the temptation for that amount of money. Your thesis basically is that this could never happen in Canada or happens less frequently in canada. It could be true. But there seem to be lots of these in canada too https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/uber-scam-driver-police-1.4458321 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/uber-scam-driver-polic...
- DoreenMichele 8y ago
  My thesis is more like "You can't reasonably assume he is merely a malicious ass hat given the crap going on in the US today and the lack of certain details in the article." I'm not saying such people don't exist. I'm just saying that when the system actively makes it hard enough to survive while doing things the world would approve of, don't be all shocked when some folks stop caring about the world's approval and start caring more about their bottom line.