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But in the states, white people still get the benefits of slavery and black folks still pay the for the costs. Why should that be allowed?
by xphilter 8y ago
But in the states, white people still get the benefits of slavery and black folks still pay the for the costs. Why should that be allowed?
- jvagner 8y agoMy parents were forced out of their country and came to the US in 1956. So..?
- xphilter 8y agoand What? How does your parents immigration affect US history? Do you think paying for true cost of slavery means you will have to give up your house or bank account?
- tacomonstrous 8y agoUnless that country happens to now currently be a part of the USA, it has no relevance.
- craigsmansion 8y agoWhite people in the U.S. don't get the benefits from slavery, they benefit from a severely broken social fabric. "Slavery" is a racial institution, and racial institutions do not exist in the U.S. But a social divide that somehow puts people of colour on the receiving end of society is an effect of the free market, and to be against that is to be a socialist, because everyone is responsible for their own success, with society having little to no bearing on that; that's the American dream. To finally abolish slavery, institute universal healthcare, make high quality education available for everyone, create a social fabric that is inclusive. But that is not the American way: every success and every failure has to be self-made, and to think otherwise is communism and an attack on American values.
- xphilter 8y agoI agree with the last part, but not the first. As a class, white folks got capital, property, education, opportunities, and more—all denied to black people. I have to think that amassing of resources have an effect today.
- weberc2 8y agoBlacks aren’t denied opportunity in the US; some of them live in low-opportunity areas due to effects of historical slavery (too many but far from all). These problems are hard to solve even for those with great intentions. The distinction is important.
- TheCoelacanth 8y agoThat is hilariously naive. No one ever racially discriminates or denies someone an opportunity because of their race anymore? Racism was just stopped cold in 1964?
- weberc2 8y agoYou’re arguing against your own straw man. I never claimed it never happens to anyone. If you can’t participate in good faith, I won’t engage further.
- craigsmansion 8y agoMy apologies. In my post I might have been more sarcastic than I intended, which notoriously doesn't carry well over the written medium. The effects of slavery have been, in my opinion, been carried over to modern times in the U.S., but everyone on the right side of the divide hides behind "equal opportunity" and "personal responsibility". The defence is that everyone with an equal amount of assets has the same opportunities, which might be true, but complete disregards the historical opportunities of people to have amassed those assets in the first place resulting in the narrative that the U.S. isn't racist in nature, it's just that its ideals of equality just happens to put people of colour at a disadvantage so everyone not affected can shrug it off, secure in the knowledge that they really earned their wealth, and that those less fortunate should just work harder. The system is fair, after all, since it worked out for them.