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A big part of Secondlife is object and scripting development.

amiga-workbench 8y ago
It's where I originally learned to program. It's depressing logging in now, most sims are a wasteland.
derefr 8y ago
I’ve only heard of Second Life, not tried it, so can I ask: is that scripting capability “online”? I.e. is this more like a multiuser Smalltalk environment (or an SQL server with stored procedures), where the IDE and the REPL and the compiler are all “within” the shared space; or is the toolchain offline, and you just push compiled modules to the server? LambdaMOO was the former: you were using existing objects to code new objects, by sending the existing objects messages on a live server. (A bit like writing bash scripts on a multitenant Unix server where everyone can drop things into /usr/local/bin, really.) I feel like there’s a wide-open space in the market right now for a game like Minecraft or Mario Maker where everything is built out of “blocks” with behaviours—but where these block-type behaviours are scripted within the envrionment itself, so you can create and share new “block types” without the need for any meta-VR commands. Like a Steam Workshop service, but one that is intended for players, rather than for game developers. A game with an scientific invention economy.
- seawlf 8y ago
  Yes, the scripting and building is all "online" as you put it. There are essentially no barriers to building, all you have to worry about is the primitive limit.
- zyx321 8y ago
  The IDE is built into the client. You can choose whether you want to make a script's source code available, or if you want to ship your work as a black box. So while you can collaborate on scripts, you can't make a script that downloads, compiles and deploys other scripts off the web.
- amiga-workbench 8y ago
  The Second Life world is made from prims (primitive shapes), these prims can be textured, adjusted and grouped together to build objects, buildings, pretty much anything. Each prim can have event driven, procedural scripts attached to them. There is basic RPC functionality available in LSL and objects can communicate with each other via chat channels, email (if I remember rightly every prim has a UUID and email address) or via a XML HTTP request. Prims can be programatically moved or altered, there is a system for drawing particles, rendering dynamic textures on surfaces and much later I believe surfaces became capable of rendering web documents on them. There is scope for a ridiculous amount of stuff. One of my favourite little projects was the Stargates you found on the grid, they all have unique addresses and work accurately just like in the show, they're pretty neat for getting around.

It's where I originally learned to program. It's depressing logging in now, most sims are a wasteland.

I’ve only heard of Second Life, not tried it, so can I ask: is that scripting capability “online”? I.e. is this more like a multiuser Smalltalk environment (or an SQL server with stored procedures), where the IDE and the REPL and the compiler are all “within” the shared space; or is the toolchain offline, and you just push compiled modules to the server? LambdaMOO was the former: you were using existing objects to code new objects, by sending the existing objects messages on a live server. (A bit like writing bash scripts on a multitenant Unix server where everyone can drop things into /usr/local/bin, really.) I feel like there’s a wide-open space in the market right now for a game like Minecraft or Mario Maker where everything is built out of “blocks” with behaviours—but where these block-type behaviours are scripted within the envrionment itself, so you can create and share new “block types” without the need for any meta-VR commands. Like a Steam Workshop service, but one that is intended for players, rather than for game developers. A game with an scientific invention economy.

seawlf 8y ago
Yes, the scripting and building is all "online" as you put it. There are essentially no barriers to building, all you have to worry about is the primitive limit.
zyx321 8y ago
The IDE is built into the client. You can choose whether you want to make a script's source code available, or if you want to ship your work as a black box. So while you can collaborate on scripts, you can't make a script that downloads, compiles and deploys other scripts off the web.
amiga-workbench 8y ago
The Second Life world is made from prims (primitive shapes), these prims can be textured, adjusted and grouped together to build objects, buildings, pretty much anything. Each prim can have event driven, procedural scripts attached to them. There is basic RPC functionality available in LSL and objects can communicate with each other via chat channels, email (if I remember rightly every prim has a UUID and email address) or via a XML HTTP request. Prims can be programatically moved or altered, there is a system for drawing particles, rendering dynamic textures on surfaces and much later I believe surfaces became capable of rendering web documents on them. There is scope for a ridiculous amount of stuff. One of my favourite little projects was the Stargates you found on the grid, they all have unique addresses and work accurately just like in the show, they're pretty neat for getting around.