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This sounds odd. What's really the incentive for all of them behind this?

by kyleperik 8y ago

tannhaeuser 8y ago
I was going to post that exact question. It's also surprising they're using Java as modelling language.
crazy_monkey 8y ago
NSA might be behind this... They might already have this...
larkeith 8y ago
Off the top of my head: The pessimist in me says it's so each of them can create a more complete user profile for marketing, advertising, and tracking. My more optimist side says that Facebook, Google, MS, and Twitter are all tech giants filled people intimately familiar with the web and its immediate future, and the majority of them are genuinely trying to improve the internet. As usual, the answer probably includes both factors, and likely others.
stevenicr 8y ago
I am guessing self regulation to avoid Cali and Euro style for the people regulation. Also our monopolies can be ported easily so there is no need to call us a monopoly or keep mentioning things like make us a public utility that has to follow anyone's rules but our own. Some positive PR in the sea of "they are evil for this and that and that and..." - hey we're open. The GDPR thing has a mandate in it that personal data must be exportable doesn't it? So, two birds, one stone, add some positive PR. Just guessing.. Lets hope this doesn't turn out how G and Fb bragged about xmpp or whatever until they didn't need it any more and then your data and comms stopped being as interchangeable as it once was.
- tannhaeuser 8y ago
  I think the GDPR mandates that you can view your personal data, but doesn't require a specific format. I'd expect the motivation for this to be more like generating growth, or as a token initiative for data exchange standards.
arendtio 8y ago
My best guess is the GDPR: > To further strengthen the control over his or her own data, where the processing of personal data is carried out by automated means, the data subject should also be allowed to receive personal data concerning him or her which he or she has provided to a controller in a structured, commonly used, machine-readable and interoperable format, and to transmit it to another controller. Data controllers should be encouraged to develop interoperable formats that enable data portability. [...] Where technically feasible, the data subject should have the right to have the personal data transmitted directly from one controller to another. [1] To me this sounds pretty similar to what we can see on Github. [1]: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32016R0679 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A...

This sounds odd. What's really the incentive for all of them behind this?

tannhaeuser 8y ago

I was going to post that exact question. It's also surprising they're using Java as modelling language.

crazy_monkey 8y ago

NSA might be behind this... They might already have this...

larkeith 8y ago

Off the top of my head: The pessimist in me says it's so each of them can create a more complete user profile for marketing, advertising, and tracking. My more optimist side says that Facebook, Google, MS, and Twitter are all tech giants filled people intimately familiar with the web and its immediate future, and the majority of them are genuinely trying to improve the internet. As usual, the answer probably includes both factors, and likely others.

stevenicr 8y ago

I am guessing self regulation to avoid Cali and Euro style for the people regulation. Also our monopolies can be ported easily so there is no need to call us a monopoly or keep mentioning things like make us a public utility that has to follow anyone's rules but our own. Some positive PR in the sea of "they are evil for this and that and that and..." - hey we're open. The GDPR thing has a mandate in it that personal data must be exportable doesn't it? So, two birds, one stone, add some positive PR. Just guessing.. Lets hope this doesn't turn out how G and Fb bragged about xmpp or whatever until they didn't need it any more and then your data and comms stopped being as interchangeable as it once was.

tannhaeuser 8y ago
I think the GDPR mandates that you can view your personal data, but doesn't require a specific format. I'd expect the motivation for this to be more like generating growth, or as a token initiative for data exchange standards.

arendtio 8y ago

My best guess is the GDPR: > To further strengthen the control over his or her own data, where the processing of personal data is carried out by automated means, the data subject should also be allowed to receive personal data concerning him or her which he or she has provided to a controller in a structured, commonly used, machine-readable and interoperable format, and to transmit it to another controller. Data controllers should be encouraged to develop interoperable formats that enable data portability. [...] Where technically feasible, the data subject should have the right to have the personal data transmitted directly from one controller to another. [1] To me this sounds pretty similar to what we can see on Github. [1]: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32016R0679 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A...