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I'm late to the party, but maybe the console guys are still lurking. If so, than first and foremost I wanted to thank you for the amazing walk you guys took the

by zaat 8y ago

I'm late to the party, but maybe the console guys are still lurking. If so, than first and foremost I wanted to thank you for the amazing walk you guys took the console so far. That said, as someone who uses your product for hours on daily basis, I have two pain points that I would love to have fixed, if that possible at all: 1. selection of text and deletion - works in PowerShell, doesn't work in cmd. Is this curable? 2. Customizing the console is pain. I don't mind doing it once but it is impossible to save theme and copy it between computers. It is also impossible to export registry keys - not only do they differ for various consoles, the color settings are not saved there. The only way I found so far for achieving this is copying the shortcut for the specific console - the colors are saved to the .lnk file in binary form. Seriously, can we have at least color exportable themes in a format that can be edited with a text editor?

bitcrazed 8y ago
Hey @zaat. Thanks for your kind words :D Alas, deleting text is an operation controlled via the shell. PowerShell's (awesome) PSReadLine does it for PowerShell, but introducing that kind of behavioral change is unlikely to be possible in Cmd because, as pointed out in the posts, Cmd is in maintenance mode, is extremely fragile, and it's key MO is backward compat, which includes behaviors because many tools, and scripts depend on behaviors (even broken ones) as "Features" ;)
- zaat 8y ago
  Thank you for answering. Any chances on number 2, especially color themes?
zadjii 8y ago
I think rich (@bitcrazed) already talked a bit about #1, so I'll share a bit on #2. I agree, the current properties story is INSANE. I don't get how whoever wrote it even came up with it - it's likely a frankencode system that we're stuck supporting for now. I can't tell you how many times I've had to explain how the console settings work, and how your settings can be different depending on how you launch the console. It's been a pain point I've had a particular eye on since I started here. It's a powerful system that is very prone to "you moved my cheese" syndrome - It's REALLY hard to change it into a sane system without breaking someone's workflow. That being said, I have a bone to pick with that system, and I think I might have some spare cycles to finally get to it soon :) PS: While we're on the subject of colors, lemme quick throw out (Colortool)[https://github.com/Microsoft/console/tree/master/tools/ColorTool https://github.com/Microsoft/console/tree/master/tools/Color...]. It can be really helpful for quickly changing the color scheme of the console. It's not great for everything, but I've found it super helpful.
- zaat 8y ago
  That's look promising. Thank you very much!

by zaat 8y ago

bitcrazed 8y ago

Hey @zaat. Thanks for your kind words :D Alas, deleting text is an operation controlled via the shell. PowerShell's (awesome) PSReadLine does it for PowerShell, but introducing that kind of behavioral change is unlikely to be possible in Cmd because, as pointed out in the posts, Cmd is in maintenance mode, is extremely fragile, and it's key MO is backward compat, which includes behaviors because many tools, and scripts depend on behaviors (even broken ones) as "Features" ;)

zaat 8y ago
Thank you for answering. Any chances on number 2, especially color themes?

zadjii 8y ago

I think rich (@bitcrazed) already talked a bit about #1, so I'll share a bit on #2. I agree, the current properties story is INSANE. I don't get how whoever wrote it even came up with it - it's likely a frankencode system that we're stuck supporting for now. I can't tell you how many times I've had to explain how the console settings work, and how your settings can be different depending on how you launch the console. It's been a pain point I've had a particular eye on since I started here. It's a powerful system that is very prone to "you moved my cheese" syndrome - It's REALLY hard to change it into a sane system without breaking someone's workflow. That being said, I have a bone to pick with that system, and I think I might have some spare cycles to finally get to it soon :) PS: While we're on the subject of colors, lemme quick throw out (Colortool)[https://github.com/Microsoft/console/tree/master/tools/ColorTool https://github.com/Microsoft/console/tree/master/tools/Color...]. It can be really helpful for quickly changing the color scheme of the console. It's not great for everything, but I've found it super helpful.

zaat 8y ago
That's look promising. Thank you very much!