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> In reality, a business can't always afford to hire someone at the minimum wage. The needs of business do not supercede the needs of human beings. If a busine

> In reality, a business can't always afford to hire someone at the minimum wage. The needs of business do not supercede the needs of human beings. If a business cannot operate without virtual slave labor, the business should not exist. > Your "argument" is just a caricatured strawman that has no basis in reality. As is yours. Businesses regularly have costs which they cannot turn a profit on, but the work must be done, so it gets done.

mindcrime 8y ago
The needs of business do not supercede the needs of human beings. If a business cannot operate without virtual slave labor, the business should not exist. Poverty is the natural state of humanity. Trade / business allow us to rise above that. The people you are referring to as "natural slave labor" are better off working for less than the sum you find optimal, than not working at all. And unless someone has a gun to their head, they always retain the option to do the latter. As is yours. I don't find it to be so, but feel free to convince me. Businesses regularly have costs which they cannot turn a profit on, but the work must be done, so it gets done. Sure, but there's a limit to that. A business can't run in the red indefinitely. And again, we already know from actual, demonstrated, empirical evidence in the Real World that business are forced, by economic reality, to pay more, often FAR more, than "minimum wage" to workers. But again, when we are talking primarily about the workers on the bottom rung of the ladder, the question is, do you want to lock them out of participating in the economy altogether?