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mistermann, I've noticed that a lot of your activity on HN seems to consist of demanding that others do research for your own edification. I wonder if you'd con

mistermann, I've noticed that a lot of your activity on HN seems to consist of demanding that others do research for your own edification. I wonder if you'd consider, please, recognizing that other people also value their own time and energy, and actually expending some effort to educate yourself. It seems like the polite and responsible thing to do. Thanks!

mistermann 8y ago
If you reread, I think you will find that I'm not asking people to do research, but rather to back up non-trivial claims of "fact" with actual evidence. Ideas matter. Culture is not an imaginary concept. It is real, and it matters. You can safely ignore it in the short run with few problems, but ignore it in the long run and you will may suffer dire consequences. Certain words have very precise meanings, that's why we have synonyms in our language. Improper choice of words matters, to varying degrees. As does improper "choice" of "facts". The degree to which an individual and overall collective society understands and correctly interprets (to the best of our ability) reality, and honestly acknowledges the that which they know to be true, matters. Some lying may be justified in an "the ends justifies the means" sense, sometimes, but be careful that you don't get into a habit of it lest you lose the ability to recognize when you're lying. This goes doubly, at least, for the media. Repeat something enough times and people start to believe it whether it is true or not. In practice, perception is reality, and I think you can observe this theory in action in any internet forum, including this one (on certain topics), as well as the overall political discourse we're enjoying in the West at the moment. And when I say this, I am keeping in mind this: https://philosophy.lander.edu/oriental/charity.html https://philosophy.lander.edu/oriental/charity.html Censoring (via outright deletion/banning, or via imperfect downvote-based mechanisms) sincere and legitimate opinions that may differ from the current mainstream fashion can result in perception bubbles forming within social media communities. In the long run, this can affect people's perception of reality, and it matters. The universe doesn't care whether you agree or not. I hope you might reconsider the content of my past and future posts with these ideas in mind. EDIT (since I am currently censored): > Great! Both you and the guy that you are originally challenging seem to agree that facts and truth matter. So what's the problem? He is stating opinions as if they are facts, that's the problem. > I think I'll do you the favor of not addressing most of the rest of your post, which seems a little... unfocused. Consider the possibility that it isn't me that is in need of a favor. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris
- iron0013 8y ago
  Great! Both you and the guy that you are originally challenging seem to agree that facts and truth matter. I also belong to the reality-based community. So what's the problem? I think I'll do you the favor of not addressing most of the rest of your post, which seems a little... unfocused.
  - mistermann 8y ago
    See edit above.

mistermann 8y ago

If you reread, I think you will find that I'm not asking people to do research, but rather to back up non-trivial claims of "fact" with actual evidence. Ideas matter. Culture is not an imaginary concept. It is real, and it matters. You can safely ignore it in the short run with few problems, but ignore it in the long run and you will may suffer dire consequences. Certain words have very precise meanings, that's why we have synonyms in our language. Improper choice of words matters, to varying degrees. As does improper "choice" of "facts". The degree to which an individual and overall collective society understands and correctly interprets (to the best of our ability) reality, and honestly acknowledges the that which they know to be true, matters. Some lying may be justified in an "the ends justifies the means" sense, sometimes, but be careful that you don't get into a habit of it lest you lose the ability to recognize when you're lying. This goes doubly, at least, for the media. Repeat something enough times and people start to believe it whether it is true or not. In practice, perception is reality, and I think you can observe this theory in action in any internet forum, including this one (on certain topics), as well as the overall political discourse we're enjoying in the West at the moment. And when I say this, I am keeping in mind this: https://philosophy.lander.edu/oriental/charity.html https://philosophy.lander.edu/oriental/charity.html Censoring (via outright deletion/banning, or via imperfect downvote-based mechanisms) sincere and legitimate opinions that may differ from the current mainstream fashion can result in perception bubbles forming within social media communities. In the long run, this can affect people's perception of reality, and it matters. The universe doesn't care whether you agree or not. I hope you might reconsider the content of my past and future posts with these ideas in mind. EDIT (since I am currently censored): > Great! Both you and the guy that you are originally challenging seem to agree that facts and truth matter. So what's the problem? He is stating opinions as if they are facts, that's the problem. > I think I'll do you the favor of not addressing most of the rest of your post, which seems a little... unfocused. Consider the possibility that it isn't me that is in need of a favor. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris

iron0013 8y ago
Great! Both you and the guy that you are originally challenging seem to agree that facts and truth matter. I also belong to the reality-based community. So what's the problem? I think I'll do you the favor of not addressing most of the rest of your post, which seems a little... unfocused.
- mistermann 8y ago
  See edit above.