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I had this same realization. In this context it doesn't work as well, anyway, because senior leaders are in meetings so often that their desk is fairly meaningl
by thomasmeeks 8y ago
I had this same realization. In this context it doesn't work as well, anyway, because senior leaders are in meetings so often that their desk is fairly meaningless.
But to generalize at a higher level -- "by what mechanism do we force management to be decent?" -- the only one I've discovered is to be willing to leave jobs that have management practices that one doesn't agree with.
Unfortunately that advice doesn't work in the general case -- mobility is relatively easy for developers but we don't make up a large part of the population. I feel like the right answer is some changes in our social structure or economy that makes job mobility much (much) easier. Like a BI/Negative Income Tax, or free education, etc.
- maxxxxx 8y ago"In this context it doesn't work as well, anyway, because senior leaders are in meetings so often that their desk is fairly meaningless." So why do they still have huge window offices? They could lead by example and give up those.
- thomasmeeks 8y agoI'm not sure -- I haven't worked long enough at a company where managers had their own office & everyone was in an open office plan. My experience was that everyone, including the CEO, was in an open office (40+ person startup, 800+ person growth company). But that it didn't really matter all that much because leadership (senior or not) was barely at their desk anyway. I do agree that if senior leadership wants an open office plan, they should commit to working in such an environment with their teams.
- alistairSH 8y agoThis mirrors my experience (see sibling comment from me). C-levels have open desks, but they're grouped in a corner, surrounded by boardrooms, and the C-levels are rarely at their desk. VPs and line managers are open like the rest of the employees. And they spend a lot of their time in other meeting spaces.