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> He's not just respecting it, by curating content on the platform he's personally endorsing the stuff that stays up. I have a suspicion that policing a social

by lolsal 8y ago

> He's not just respecting it, by curating content on the platform he's personally endorsing the stuff that stays up. I have a suspicion that policing a social network with billions of users and keeping on top of trolls, bots and spam make it a little more complicated than 'if it stays up he personally endorses it'. This is a false dichotomy, there is a middle ground.

mullingitover 8y ago
You ever notice that Facebook isn't known for hosting child pornography? It's because they police their platform effectively, and things that they don't want on their platform are quickly removed. They are very effective at policing their platform, full stop. The stuff that's on there is the stuff they've decided they want to host and share with the world, including holocaust denialism.
- adamrezich 8y ago
  Yes because in the United States, child pornography is illegal, and Holocaust denial isn't.
  - mullingitover 8y ago
    You're notably not fighting my point that Facebook has total control over their platform. Thus it follows that Facebook implicitly endorses Holocaust denialism. If they didn't, they could remove it.
    - lolsal 8y ago
      > You're notably not fighting my point that Facebook has total control over their platform. I don't think anyone is. It's their platform, they can do whatever they want with it. Facebook access is not an unalienable human right. > Thus it follows that Facebook implicitly endorses Holocaust denialism. If they didn't, they could remove it. They can allow something on their platform without endorsing it. Permitting something and endorsing it are absolutely not synonymous.
      - mullingitover 8y ago
        > They can allow something on their platform without endorsing it. Permitting something and endorsing it are absolutely not synonymous. Hey guys, I'm not endorsing the extermination of muslims in Myanmar, I just have a bunch of signs up in my yard with messages from people who want them dead. Permitting anti-muslim propaganda in my front yard and endorsing it are absolutely not synonymous.
        lolsal 8y ago
        You putting signs in your front yard is not the same as people posting content on a free service, hopefully you see that. Either way, I don't think you're really interested in discussing this, so I'm done with you. Have a good day.
        mullingitover 8y ago
        It's not a "free service," Facebook is spending vast sums of money to operate their site. They're spending non-zero sums of money distributing people's pro-Nazi holocaust denial propaganda. Unlike the government, there's no law stopping them from taking this garbage down.
- lolsal 8y ago
  > You ever notice that Facebook isn't known for hosting child pornography? It's because they police their platform effectively, and things that they don't want on their platform are quickly removed. Facebook is highly motivated to remove illegal things from their platform. > They are very effective at policing their platform, full stop. The efficacy of which they police their platform is up for debate, but the fact that they can and do police their platform is not. I agree with you - they do police their platform. They can and do remove things at their discretion. > The stuff that's on there is the stuff they've decided they want to host and share with the world, including holocaust denialism. You are incorrect, or at least confused. Deciding not to censor something absolutely is not endorsement of that thing.

by lolsal 8y ago

mullingitover 8y ago

You ever notice that Facebook isn't known for hosting child pornography? It's because they police their platform effectively, and things that they don't want on their platform are quickly removed. They are very effective at policing their platform, full stop. The stuff that's on there is the stuff they've decided they want to host and share with the world, including holocaust denialism.

adamrezich 8y ago
Yes because in the United States, child pornography is illegal, and Holocaust denial isn't.
- mullingitover 8y ago
  You're notably not fighting my point that Facebook has total control over their platform. Thus it follows that Facebook implicitly endorses Holocaust denialism. If they didn't, they could remove it.
  - lolsal 8y ago
    > You're notably not fighting my point that Facebook has total control over their platform. I don't think anyone is. It's their platform, they can do whatever they want with it. Facebook access is not an unalienable human right. > Thus it follows that Facebook implicitly endorses Holocaust denialism. If they didn't, they could remove it. They can allow something on their platform without endorsing it. Permitting something and endorsing it are absolutely not synonymous.
    - mullingitover 8y ago
      > They can allow something on their platform without endorsing it. Permitting something and endorsing it are absolutely not synonymous. Hey guys, I'm not endorsing the extermination of muslims in Myanmar, I just have a bunch of signs up in my yard with messages from people who want them dead. Permitting anti-muslim propaganda in my front yard and endorsing it are absolutely not synonymous.
      - lolsal 8y ago
        You putting signs in your front yard is not the same as people posting content on a free service, hopefully you see that. Either way, I don't think you're really interested in discussing this, so I'm done with you. Have a good day.
        mullingitover 8y ago
        It's not a "free service," Facebook is spending vast sums of money to operate their site. They're spending non-zero sums of money distributing people's pro-Nazi holocaust denial propaganda. Unlike the government, there's no law stopping them from taking this garbage down.
lolsal 8y ago
> You ever notice that Facebook isn't known for hosting child pornography? It's because they police their platform effectively, and things that they don't want on their platform are quickly removed. Facebook is highly motivated to remove illegal things from their platform. > They are very effective at policing their platform, full stop. The efficacy of which they police their platform is up for debate, but the fact that they can and do police their platform is not. I agree with you - they do police their platform. They can and do remove things at their discretion. > The stuff that's on there is the stuff they've decided they want to host and share with the world, including holocaust denialism. You are incorrect, or at least confused. Deciding not to censor something absolutely is not endorsement of that thing.