> from my point of view my whole line of discussion is meant to be totally about pragmatism. I do suspect you're conflating pragmatism with principle, whereas

> from my point of view my whole line of discussion is meant to be totally about pragmatism. I do suspect you're conflating pragmatism with principle, whereas they're often considered to be at odds. Perhaps, consider, instead, "expediency" as a synonym for pragmatism in this context. For better or for worse, the advice sought here not likely to have been the kind involving a substantial moral (or idealogical or principled or fairness what have you) component nor strenuous repetition thereof. > Applying a “don’t bring ideology into this” criticism to my comments here seems totally unfair It was merely a gentle suggestion for self-examination through a particular critical lens, given the, apparently strong, negative reaction from the community. Clearly, that backfired, and I apologize. I was hoping I could help reveal maybe a slightly different angle of looking at the whole thing, but I realize that's difficult when one feels particularly strongly. (Nobody else is likely ever to see these writings given the age of the post and depth of the subthread anyway).