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Much faster and leaner than PyCharm. Its a lille involved to set up completions for third party libs which are not installed using pip compared to PyCharm. Com

Much faster and leaner than PyCharm. Its a lille involved to set up completions for third party libs which are not installed using pip compared to PyCharm. Completions on par with PyCharm but there are a few better refactorings in PyCharm but nothing that would make me switch back to PyCharm.

j88439h84 8y ago
What are "third party libs which are not installed using pip"? I install all my libs with pip.
- dagw 8y ago
  Lots of commercial libraries aren't pip installable for example.
  - heavenlyblue 8y ago
    Can you give an example? I've never worked with anything that's not pip-installable. Even my web backends are packaged as versioned pip packages - that's why it seems weird.
    - dagw 8y ago
      All the various libraries used to interact with software from companies like Autodesk and ESRI are one example.
      - heavenlyblue 8y ago
        But it has nothing to do with the fact that they can't do proper packaging. Using their own, proprietarily-compiled interpreter is what keeps you using their products in a controlled fashion.
    - int_19h 8y ago
      PyQt and PySide until very recently, for example. Usually it's stuff that has large native dependencies.
      - heavenlyblue 8y ago
        I agree with that one. Haven't used PyQT since Uni and it was a hell to make sure you could use it. Frankly at the time I just assumed I couldn't download the package simply because it generally takes to long to compile Qt.
    - vak0 8y ago
      Here's an example: https://github.com/qnzhou/PyMesh https://github.com/qnzhou/PyMesh. In fact, building it is a dependency hell.
      - heavenlyblue 8y ago
        Well, I can see that this is a WIP library and I can also see how people actively working on an academic project don't really bother (or do not have enough experience with the package system quirks) to package it well for a variety of systems.
- xapata 8y ago
  Even your own? I use PYTHONPATH so that I don't need to pip upgrade every time I make a change.
  - j88439h84 8y ago
    That's what `pip install --editable` is for.
chatnati 8y ago
mmmmmm Java.......
kstrauser 8y ago
But it is super easy to configure per-project virtualenvs, so you can manually install stuff and have it Just Work inside vscode.

j88439h84 8y ago

What are "third party libs which are not installed using pip"? I install all my libs with pip.

dagw 8y ago
Lots of commercial libraries aren't pip installable for example.
- heavenlyblue 8y ago
  Can you give an example? I've never worked with anything that's not pip-installable. Even my web backends are packaged as versioned pip packages - that's why it seems weird.
  - dagw 8y ago
    All the various libraries used to interact with software from companies like Autodesk and ESRI are one example.
    - heavenlyblue 8y ago
      But it has nothing to do with the fact that they can't do proper packaging. Using their own, proprietarily-compiled interpreter is what keeps you using their products in a controlled fashion.
  - int_19h 8y ago
    PyQt and PySide until very recently, for example. Usually it's stuff that has large native dependencies.
    - heavenlyblue 8y ago
      I agree with that one. Haven't used PyQT since Uni and it was a hell to make sure you could use it. Frankly at the time I just assumed I couldn't download the package simply because it generally takes to long to compile Qt.
  - vak0 8y ago
    Here's an example: https://github.com/qnzhou/PyMesh https://github.com/qnzhou/PyMesh. In fact, building it is a dependency hell.
    - heavenlyblue 8y ago
      Well, I can see that this is a WIP library and I can also see how people actively working on an academic project don't really bother (or do not have enough experience with the package system quirks) to package it well for a variety of systems.
xapata 8y ago
Even your own? I use PYTHONPATH so that I don't need to pip upgrade every time I make a change.
- j88439h84 8y ago
  That's what `pip install --editable` is for.

chatnati 8y ago

mmmmmm Java.......

kstrauser 8y ago

But it is super easy to configure per-project virtualenvs, so you can manually install stuff and have it Just Work inside vscode.