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>And you shouldn't need to use either daily in a civilized society. This is either some next-level elitism or a false argument. Does the recluse have no place
by BRAlNlAC 8y ago
>And you shouldn't need to use either daily in a civilized society.
This is either some next-level elitism or a false argument. Does the recluse have no place in society? What about the logger, or the Tractor operator? What about the surgeon who is on call, do you want them to bike to the hospital at 2 AM? I sure as hell don't.
If your argument is that no individual should have to own a car, we already live in that America. If your argument is that no one should have to own in a car, get real.
- antt 8y agoTractors, trucks, ambulances and motor bikes are not cars. > we already live in that America. Perhaps you should visit the old town centres in Europe, or the country villages. You can see what a society built around not using cars looks like.
- BRAlNlAC 8y agoI have been to old town centers in Europe, you really ought to tone down your elitism. What I meant when I said "tractor drivers getting to work" is people like my friend who grades and compacts pads for new homes. He drives a 4x4 pickup down a dirt road sometimes for 10+ miles to get to his tractor so he can start working. How does mass transit work for new construction?
- antt 8y ago> Both have reasonable use cases. Building is a reasonable use case for cars while protecting yourself from polar bears is a reasonable use case for guns [0]. I don't understand why you, and a large number of other people, are being willfully obtuse about this. 10+ miles on dirt roads to get to a tractor is not someone who lives in civilization, it's someone out in the wilderness. [0] https://www.cntraveler.com/story/alaskan-town-kaktovik-polar-bears-and-tourists https://www.cntraveler.com/story/alaskan-town-kaktovik-polar...