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Maybe you mean American corporations and people in power love space and their cars and the money they make off of selling and developing those things? For exam

Maybe you mean American corporations and people in power love space and their cars and the money they make off of selling and developing those things? For example, LA used to have a great train network for public transportation until the automobile industry made sure to tear it down so people would be forced to drive cars. In SF/BayArea people want zoning to change so there can be more housing/apartment buildings. Who's blocking that from happening? Homeowners who think that would devalue their properties. Also, doesn't seem like people in NYC value cars or yards that much (at least not over living in NYC).

claydavisss 8y ago
No living in the country is actually not a vast alt-right conspiracy.
- maccam94 8y ago
  Well, not alt right... De-urbanization was spurred by housing shortages post-WW2 and federal policy seeking to stabilize the housing market. The FHA was created to insure home loans that met a long list of requirements[1], which had biases towards increasing consumption (including cars) and racial segregation. The marketing and growth of suburbia was then promoted by various business interests that would benefit from that increased consumption[2]. The new suburban lifestyle led to the rise of modern conservatism[3]. Most (~85% [3]) of the US lives in metropolitan areas, so rural lifestyles are not typical and it would be vastly less efficient if everyone lived there rather than in cities. 1: https://marketurbanism.com/2017/09/12/financing-suburbia-how-government-mortgage-policy-determined-where-you-live/ https://marketurbanism.com/2017/09/12/financing-suburbia-how... 2: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/07/20/the-false-promise-of-homeownership/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ed2710a026a0 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/... 3: http://americanhistory.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780199329175.001.0001/acrefore-9780199329175-e-64 http://americanhistory.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/97...
colechristensen 8y ago
"America" doesn't consist of LA, NYC, and SF. There are a lot of people even in those places that don't want density but choose the environment because there are jobs, and there are jobs because so few people are willing to leave. (catch 22)
- couchand 8y ago
  It's true that America isn't only New York City, Los Angeles, and San Francisco, but those three areas do make up over 10% of the population, which is nothing to sneeze at.
  - BRAlNlAC 8y ago
    While that is true, LA makes up a big portion of that "over 10%" hardly anyone in LA lives in anything remotely like high-density housing or lives there for much beyond the fantastic weather and job opportunities. Also, you don't do anything to address the parent comments point that plenty of people who live in higher-density areas would prefer to move to somewhere more rural, but can't because of life.
    - linkregister 8y ago
      100% of the my friends and family who live in New York would live nowhere else in the country in spite of the extreme costs of living in Manhattan, when they could have equal incomes elsewhere. I know it's hard for you to believe, but some people like living in high density areas.
      - BRAlNlAC 8y ago
        I understand that. But at the same time I know plenty of people who live in SF who would love to move to a more rural area, but they or their spouse can't find work in their field outside of metro areas and SF is close to their rural roots. Some people don't like living in high density areas, but find themselves their out of circumstance.
    - 8y ago

claydavisss 8y ago

No living in the country is actually not a vast alt-right conspiracy.

maccam94 8y ago
Well, not alt right... De-urbanization was spurred by housing shortages post-WW2 and federal policy seeking to stabilize the housing market. The FHA was created to insure home loans that met a long list of requirements[1], which had biases towards increasing consumption (including cars) and racial segregation. The marketing and growth of suburbia was then promoted by various business interests that would benefit from that increased consumption[2]. The new suburban lifestyle led to the rise of modern conservatism[3]. Most (~85% [3]) of the US lives in metropolitan areas, so rural lifestyles are not typical and it would be vastly less efficient if everyone lived there rather than in cities. 1: https://marketurbanism.com/2017/09/12/financing-suburbia-how-government-mortgage-policy-determined-where-you-live/ https://marketurbanism.com/2017/09/12/financing-suburbia-how... 2: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/07/20/the-false-promise-of-homeownership/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ed2710a026a0 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/... 3: http://americanhistory.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780199329175.001.0001/acrefore-9780199329175-e-64 http://americanhistory.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/97...

colechristensen 8y ago

"America" doesn't consist of LA, NYC, and SF. There are a lot of people even in those places that don't want density but choose the environment because there are jobs, and there are jobs because so few people are willing to leave. (catch 22)

couchand 8y ago
It's true that America isn't only New York City, Los Angeles, and San Francisco, but those three areas do make up over 10% of the population, which is nothing to sneeze at.
- BRAlNlAC 8y ago
  While that is true, LA makes up a big portion of that "over 10%" hardly anyone in LA lives in anything remotely like high-density housing or lives there for much beyond the fantastic weather and job opportunities. Also, you don't do anything to address the parent comments point that plenty of people who live in higher-density areas would prefer to move to somewhere more rural, but can't because of life.
  - linkregister 8y ago
    100% of the my friends and family who live in New York would live nowhere else in the country in spite of the extreme costs of living in Manhattan, when they could have equal incomes elsewhere. I know it's hard for you to believe, but some people like living in high density areas.
    - BRAlNlAC 8y ago
      I understand that. But at the same time I know plenty of people who live in SF who would love to move to a more rural area, but they or their spouse can't find work in their field outside of metro areas and SF is close to their rural roots. Some people don't like living in high density areas, but find themselves their out of circumstance.
  - 8y ago