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Understood. I don't think that solves the issue that many adapterphobes have, though. With my 2012 MBP, I don't need to buy extra cables for each device I have

Understood. I don't think that solves the issue that many adapterphobes have, though. With my 2012 MBP, I don't need to buy extra cables for each device I have. I just use the standard cable that's included. Or the one that the conference room already has. HDMI for displays (or DP), USB for a keyboard or mouse, etc. When all you have is the USB-C port, it's now your own responsibility to carry a cable for each situation. Don't get me wrong. I don't think it's all that big of a deal. But I understand where complainers are coming from.

coldtea 8y ago
>When all you have is the USB-C port, it's now your own responsibility to carry a cable for each situation. For those type of "foreign environment" (e.g. not your house or office) where you don't know what you'll meet, a single USB-C to HDMI and USB 3.0 adapter, which weights next to nothing, and is sold by Apple and many third parties (down to $10-$20) will do. https://www.amazon.com/Pass-Through-Multiport-Supports-Through-Black-Through-Aluminum/dp/B01F21ADOE https://www.amazon.com/Pass-Through-Multiport-Supports-Throu...
- function_seven 8y ago
  I think I came off as too pedantic or combative in my original reply. I'm not personally bothered all that much by dongles. A little, but "eh". I think the frustration dongle-haters feel is that Apple puts so much effort into slimming down their laptops, only to ruin it with the need to pack extra stuff. If the computer was just a few mm thicker, it would have better battery life, room for some USB-A ports, HDMI port, etc. And the backpack wouldn't need to have the dongle or extra cables in there. Again, this is mostly academic for me. The only dongle I've ever had to use is a TB-to-GigEth one. But I was pissed the one time I forgot it and became the only person in the room unable to get on the network. Wi-Fi is way more common now, so that's not a hazard. But the other ports (USB-A, HDMI, etc.) are still in wide use, whereas USB-C is still a mishmash of incompatible cables, protocols, and connector types. A few years from now, this whole argument will probably (hopefully) be looked at the same way the floppy drive's abandonment was in 1997.

coldtea 8y ago

>When all you have is the USB-C port, it's now your own responsibility to carry a cable for each situation. For those type of "foreign environment" (e.g. not your house or office) where you don't know what you'll meet, a single USB-C to HDMI and USB 3.0 adapter, which weights next to nothing, and is sold by Apple and many third parties (down to $10-$20) will do. https://www.amazon.com/Pass-Through-Multiport-Supports-Through-Black-Through-Aluminum/dp/B01F21ADOE https://www.amazon.com/Pass-Through-Multiport-Supports-Throu...

function_seven 8y ago
I think I came off as too pedantic or combative in my original reply. I'm not personally bothered all that much by dongles. A little, but "eh". I think the frustration dongle-haters feel is that Apple puts so much effort into slimming down their laptops, only to ruin it with the need to pack extra stuff. If the computer was just a few mm thicker, it would have better battery life, room for some USB-A ports, HDMI port, etc. And the backpack wouldn't need to have the dongle or extra cables in there. Again, this is mostly academic for me. The only dongle I've ever had to use is a TB-to-GigEth one. But I was pissed the one time I forgot it and became the only person in the room unable to get on the network. Wi-Fi is way more common now, so that's not a hazard. But the other ports (USB-A, HDMI, etc.) are still in wide use, whereas USB-C is still a mishmash of incompatible cables, protocols, and connector types. A few years from now, this whole argument will probably (hopefully) be looked at the same way the floppy drive's abandonment was in 1997.