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I do grasp the impact. You are assuming that there would be built no legitimate business which would not make it their thing to send original objects to earth.

I do grasp the impact. You are assuming that there would be built no legitimate business which would not make it their thing to send original objects to earth. The diamond market was created to begin with, just because the market is going down doesn't mean that the value of a diamond is which any visit to a diamond store would tell you and certain historic diamonds certainly haven't gone down in price. You can't recreate the history of an original ming dynasty vase just because you can replicate it down to it's atomic structure that's the point. You can't see this because you keep thinking about the object as having value. It never had value it's us who attach value to things and we will continue to do that even if we can replicate, in fact that would just increase the price even more for originals.

lisper 8y ago
> I do grasp the impact. I don't think so. > You are assuming that there would be built no legitimate business which would not make it their thing to send original objects to earth. No, I'm not assuming that. I'm presenting an argument for that. Not the same thing. The argument is: in the presence of perfect replication technology, it is no longer possible to track the provenance of objects (and it is certainly not possible across interstellar times and distances). If you think it's possible, tell me how you would do it. Suppose I own an original and you want to buy it. How can I convince you that what I am handing over to you is in fact "the original" and not a perfect copy?
- ThomPete 8y ago
  I gave you several ways it could be done, but as long as you are so fixated on the object you can't see it. Humans apply value. Today the Mona Lisa has no value inherent you can say that someone who pays 400milion for a painting is being scammed even if it's original. But even if you can replicate the atomic structure the human perception of the value of the original does not go away and that means there is a market for that. Claiming that it's not possible to send something created from earth which itself would be valuable even if it was something which was replicated on earth without being scammed is simply misrepresenting humans and that's the important part here humans, not the object.
  - lisper 8y ago
    > I gave you several ways it could be done Sorry, you'll have to refresh my memory.

lisper 8y ago

> I do grasp the impact. I don't think so. > You are assuming that there would be built no legitimate business which would not make it their thing to send original objects to earth. No, I'm not assuming that. I'm presenting an argument for that. Not the same thing. The argument is: in the presence of perfect replication technology, it is no longer possible to track the provenance of objects (and it is certainly not possible across interstellar times and distances). If you think it's possible, tell me how you would do it. Suppose I own an original and you want to buy it. How can I convince you that what I am handing over to you is in fact "the original" and not a perfect copy?

ThomPete 8y ago
I gave you several ways it could be done, but as long as you are so fixated on the object you can't see it. Humans apply value. Today the Mona Lisa has no value inherent you can say that someone who pays 400milion for a painting is being scammed even if it's original. But even if you can replicate the atomic structure the human perception of the value of the original does not go away and that means there is a market for that. Claiming that it's not possible to send something created from earth which itself would be valuable even if it was something which was replicated on earth without being scammed is simply misrepresenting humans and that's the important part here humans, not the object.
- lisper 8y ago
  > I gave you several ways it could be done Sorry, you'll have to refresh my memory.