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That works for the rinky dink little file browser you put up on Github. It does not work for a project of this scale. Any core contributor who is unwilling to c

That works for the rinky dink little file browser you put up on Github. It does not work for a project of this scale. Any core contributor who is unwilling to consider that point and treat this like a professional needs to step down, now.

skybrian 8y ago
Wow, that's entitled. Did you know that Python has a money-back guarantee?
- s73v3r_ 8y ago
  No. For something of this nature, it is not entitlement to expect the people working on the core team to treat it like a professional. The entitlement comes when you believe that you can take a project like this, that millions of people are using to affect billions more, and treat it like a little hobby project.
  - skybrian 8y ago
    Open source code is a gift. You don't have any right to demand this of them, and neither does anyone else. (What could possibly give you this right?) If the governance of an open source project is bad enough, the way to fix it is to get a group of people together to maintain a fork. (Companies that depend on open source software can and will maintain their own branches.)
    - s73v3r_ 8y ago
      "Open source code is a gift." And the ability to work on it is a gift, too. If you're not going to take working on something as high profile as Python seriously, if you're just going to treat it as a hobby, then do everyone a favor and don't bother. "You don't have any right to demand this of them" As a user of Python, I absolutely do.
      - skybrian 8y ago
        Being a user of Python only gives you the rights granted to you in the software license. If you'll read it over you'll see it doesn't include any right to make any demands of the developers.
  - msla 8y ago
    You're using a lot of words to say nothing concrete. What, precisely, do you mean by "professional", and how is the Python team not being "professional" right now? Because the definition of "professional" I use is "Doing something for money, as a profession", with no implications about the quality of the work, and that's obviously not what you mean by it... right?

skybrian 8y ago

Wow, that's entitled. Did you know that Python has a money-back guarantee?

s73v3r_ 8y ago
No. For something of this nature, it is not entitlement to expect the people working on the core team to treat it like a professional. The entitlement comes when you believe that you can take a project like this, that millions of people are using to affect billions more, and treat it like a little hobby project.
- skybrian 8y ago
  Open source code is a gift. You don't have any right to demand this of them, and neither does anyone else. (What could possibly give you this right?) If the governance of an open source project is bad enough, the way to fix it is to get a group of people together to maintain a fork. (Companies that depend on open source software can and will maintain their own branches.)
  - s73v3r_ 8y ago
    "Open source code is a gift." And the ability to work on it is a gift, too. If you're not going to take working on something as high profile as Python seriously, if you're just going to treat it as a hobby, then do everyone a favor and don't bother. "You don't have any right to demand this of them" As a user of Python, I absolutely do.
    - skybrian 8y ago
      Being a user of Python only gives you the rights granted to you in the software license. If you'll read it over you'll see it doesn't include any right to make any demands of the developers.
- msla 8y ago
  You're using a lot of words to say nothing concrete. What, precisely, do you mean by "professional", and how is the Python team not being "professional" right now? Because the definition of "professional" I use is "Doing something for money, as a profession", with no implications about the quality of the work, and that's obviously not what you mean by it... right?