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This graph is telling: http://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/mobile/worldwide http://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/mobile/worldw... Subtrac

This graph is telling: http://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/mobile/worldwide http://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/mobile/worldw... Subtract the iOS market share from the overall base, and is at 75% market share of remainder. The only strong competitor is UC Browser at 13.3%. This is an AliBaba product localized to mainland China. Remove that from the global market, and we end up with ~90% share for chrome in the rest of the world. That's antitrust territory.

ucaetano 8y ago
> This is an AliBaba product localized to mainland China. Nope, massively popular in India.
- glitchc 8y ago
  Didn't know that, that's interesting. Is it because low-end phones that are popular in India are largely Chinese-origin vendors?
lern_too_spel 8y ago
If other browsers are also included by default, it is not antitrust to include that browser by default too. The only reason the share of Chrome would be interesting for antitrust would be if that share were leveraged to promote a product in another market, which nobody is claiming.
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- ocdtrekkie 8y ago
  Actually that's exactly what the claim is: That Chrome being mandatorily included and set as default is used to promote Google Search unfairly. That's directly in the EU's statement.
  - lern_too_spel 8y ago
    No, the claim is that they're using Android's dominant position to push Google search and other Google products. Chrome's default in itself is not an issue.
  - josteink 8y ago
    Also: WebDRM.
aembleton 8y ago
Restricting to just Europe: http://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/mobile/europe/#monthly-201806-201806-bar http://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/mobile/europe... IEMobile is ahead of Firefox!
- Fnoord 8y ago
  Well, on my LOS+microG device I use Firefox, but my apps use SystemView and that's basically Chrome (which skews these stats). By using Firefox I use two different rendering engines, increasing my attack surface.
  - candiodari 8y ago
    I wonder what the user/developer experience would be on such a device. Worse than Samsung would be my guess (and that's a disaster).
    - Fnoord 8y ago
      Explain? I haven't used Samsung since SGS3, a flagship device which only got updates for 1 year.

ucaetano 8y ago

> This is an AliBaba product localized to mainland China. Nope, massively popular in India.

glitchc 8y ago
Didn't know that, that's interesting. Is it because low-end phones that are popular in India are largely Chinese-origin vendors?

lern_too_spel 8y ago

If other browsers are also included by default, it is not antitrust to include that browser by default too. The only reason the share of Chrome would be interesting for antitrust would be if that share were leveraged to promote a product in another market, which nobody is claiming.

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ocdtrekkie 8y ago
Actually that's exactly what the claim is: That Chrome being mandatorily included and set as default is used to promote Google Search unfairly. That's directly in the EU's statement.
- lern_too_spel 8y ago
  No, the claim is that they're using Android's dominant position to push Google search and other Google products. Chrome's default in itself is not an issue.
- josteink 8y ago
  Also: WebDRM.

aembleton 8y ago

Restricting to just Europe: http://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/mobile/europe/#monthly-201806-201806-bar http://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/mobile/europe... IEMobile is ahead of Firefox!

Fnoord 8y ago
Well, on my LOS+microG device I use Firefox, but my apps use SystemView and that's basically Chrome (which skews these stats). By using Firefox I use two different rendering engines, increasing my attack surface.
- candiodari 8y ago
  I wonder what the user/developer experience would be on such a device. Worse than Samsung would be my guess (and that's a disaster).
  - Fnoord 8y ago
    Explain? I haven't used Samsung since SGS3, a flagship device which only got updates for 1 year.