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The Transportation Safety Board report is at http://www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng/enquetes-investigations/marine/2015/m15p0347/m15p0347.asp http://www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng

by dzdt 8y ago

The Transportation Safety Board report is at http://www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng/enquetes-investigations/marine/2015/m15p0347/m15p0347.asp http://www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng/enquetes-investigations/marine/... They recommend improved safety planning requirements and automated beacons for such commercial vessels operating outside sheltered waters.

sandworm101 8y ago
Automated beacons are great, but nothing would have gotten rescuers onto this scene any faster. Thirty minutes or an hour is an amazing response time. Unless you are 10-15 miles from Comox, even an airforce helicopter could not have gotten their any faster.
- JamesCoyne 8y ago
  The "Findings" section of the report indicates 45 minutes elapsed before authorities were aware of the capsizing. In this case, a beacon may have cut that time down. In a location where hypothermia is a risk, this is important. > Approximately 45 minutes elapsed before search-and-rescue (SAR) resources became aware of the capsizing, as the crew did not have time to transmit a distress call before the capsizing, nor did the vessel have a means to automatically send a distress call.
  - trhway 8y ago
    the temperature-to-survival time table: http://www.ussartf.org/cold_water_survival.htm http://www.ussartf.org/cold_water_survival.htm In this case water was 14C, so while such water may be very unpleasant (depends on overall weather - on a nice summer day it is very nice to go into water at Half Moon Bay where water today for example is 14.5C, and where i originally come from we have 17C, at best, water in summer and everybody enjoys it immensely), it isn't such an imminent danger on its own if one has flotation vest on, as one can survive for several hours in it, yet unfortunately most people wouldn't be really able to actively maintain flotation on their own without the vest, less swim, for duration longer than may be 10 minutes. Basically having vest on or off is the critical juncture.
- curtis 8y ago
  > ... nothing would have gotten rescuers onto this scene any faster. That's true in this case, but might very well not be the case in a future accident. That rescuers were able to reach the Leviathan II so quickly in this case is partly due to some very good luck after the accident -- crew members spotted a flare just floating in the water and were able to fire it. It was this flare that the first rescue boat saw.
  - sandworm101 8y ago
    Finding the flare wasn't the amazing bit. That someone was close enough and looking in the correct direction, that's the miracle. Normally I would never say to just launch a flare and hope someone sees it. That's a wasted flare. Normally you hold off until you think someone is in the area. And a flare being seen during daylight?
rectang 8y ago
A rogue wave hit them, so fast no one had time to react. > 2.1 Factors leading to the capsizing and loss of life > ... The Transportation Safety Board of Canada (TSB) stability assessment supports the conclusion that the forces exerted on the vessel by this wave were sufficient to overcome the stability of the vessel and cause it to capsize; no other significant factors contributing to the capsizing were identified.

by dzdt 8y ago

sandworm101 8y ago

Automated beacons are great, but nothing would have gotten rescuers onto this scene any faster. Thirty minutes or an hour is an amazing response time. Unless you are 10-15 miles from Comox, even an airforce helicopter could not have gotten their any faster.

JamesCoyne 8y ago
The "Findings" section of the report indicates 45 minutes elapsed before authorities were aware of the capsizing. In this case, a beacon may have cut that time down. In a location where hypothermia is a risk, this is important. > Approximately 45 minutes elapsed before search-and-rescue (SAR) resources became aware of the capsizing, as the crew did not have time to transmit a distress call before the capsizing, nor did the vessel have a means to automatically send a distress call.
- trhway 8y ago
  the temperature-to-survival time table: http://www.ussartf.org/cold_water_survival.htm http://www.ussartf.org/cold_water_survival.htm In this case water was 14C, so while such water may be very unpleasant (depends on overall weather - on a nice summer day it is very nice to go into water at Half Moon Bay where water today for example is 14.5C, and where i originally come from we have 17C, at best, water in summer and everybody enjoys it immensely), it isn't such an imminent danger on its own if one has flotation vest on, as one can survive for several hours in it, yet unfortunately most people wouldn't be really able to actively maintain flotation on their own without the vest, less swim, for duration longer than may be 10 minutes. Basically having vest on or off is the critical juncture.
curtis 8y ago
> ... nothing would have gotten rescuers onto this scene any faster. That's true in this case, but might very well not be the case in a future accident. That rescuers were able to reach the Leviathan II so quickly in this case is partly due to some very good luck after the accident -- crew members spotted a flare just floating in the water and were able to fire it. It was this flare that the first rescue boat saw.
- sandworm101 8y ago
  Finding the flare wasn't the amazing bit. That someone was close enough and looking in the correct direction, that's the miracle. Normally I would never say to just launch a flare and hope someone sees it. That's a wasted flare. Normally you hold off until you think someone is in the area. And a flare being seen during daylight?

rectang 8y ago

A rogue wave hit them, so fast no one had time to react. > 2.1 Factors leading to the capsizing and loss of life > ... The Transportation Safety Board of Canada (TSB) stability assessment supports the conclusion that the forces exerted on the vessel by this wave were sufficient to overcome the stability of the vessel and cause it to capsize; no other significant factors contributing to the capsizing were identified.