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"FB has said it will create partnerships with local civil society groups to identify misinformation" Thank goodness FB is not the real Internet. Imagine windin

"FB has said it will create partnerships with local civil society groups to identify misinformation" Thank goodness FB is not the real Internet. Imagine winding up on the wrong side of a secret rule-making group who marks your free speech as unacceptable.

vkou 8y ago
Imagine winding up on the wrong side of a lynch mob that Facebook abets. Actually, you don't need to imagine, this happens every once in a while in India. If Facebook wants to be responsible for curating content on their platforms (Which they absolutely do, wrt, say, pornography, stalking, harassment, etc), then they can't shirk that responsibility, either.
- saas_sam 8y ago
  This article isn't about any of the examples you just listed, which are already policed by Facebook and, you know, the actual police.
  - vkou 8y ago
    My understanding of the lynchings is that they work by someone sharing a 'Billy is a pedophile' on FB/WA, the 'news' going viral, and a few hours later, concerned citizens show up at Billy's house, with axes and tire irons. Not that different from the pizzagate bullshit back in 2016. [1] [1] https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/22/533941689/pizzagate-gunman-sentenced-to-4-years-in-prison https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/22/533941689...
    - saas_sam 8y ago
      The assumption you are making that seems so obviously wrong I am shocked anyone on Earth would make it: that concerned citizens with axes and tire irons will stay home as long as certain things aren't said. They're showing up anyway, buddy. You can walk on eggshells all you want, force everyone on the Internet to walk along with you, and they will still be out there. If your goal in life is to live as long as possible with as little violence as possible, I suggest you buy a nice farm somewhere safe and live out your years in quiet solitude. If, on the other hand, you want a rich life that is worth living, I suggest you learn to tolerate people publishing lies on the Internet and install a good deadbolt.
      - afuchs 8y ago
        Are angry mobs waiting to violently attack someone because their neighbor doesn't like the color their house is painted? Is this indistinguishable from when an angry mob violently attacks someone because their neighbor libeled them? The problem, as history has repeatedly shown, is that speech has consequences. Even simple jokes have lead to violence.
        saas_sam 8y ago
        Can you seriously imagine a world where behavior and speech are restricted to that which does not cause people to get angry and potentially violent? Can you both imagine that world and also want to live in that world?
        afuchs 8y ago
        To the extent that it's possible, yes. Just look at Canada's hate speech laws if you want a real world example.
        saas_sam 8y ago
        Careful, you might anger a patriotic mob with that talk, might want to cool it.

vkou 8y ago

Imagine winding up on the wrong side of a lynch mob that Facebook abets. Actually, you don't need to imagine, this happens every once in a while in India. If Facebook wants to be responsible for curating content on their platforms (Which they absolutely do, wrt, say, pornography, stalking, harassment, etc), then they can't shirk that responsibility, either.

saas_sam 8y ago
This article isn't about any of the examples you just listed, which are already policed by Facebook and, you know, the actual police.
- vkou 8y ago
  My understanding of the lynchings is that they work by someone sharing a 'Billy is a pedophile' on FB/WA, the 'news' going viral, and a few hours later, concerned citizens show up at Billy's house, with axes and tire irons. Not that different from the pizzagate bullshit back in 2016. [1] [1] https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/22/533941689/pizzagate-gunman-sentenced-to-4-years-in-prison https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/22/533941689...
  - saas_sam 8y ago
    The assumption you are making that seems so obviously wrong I am shocked anyone on Earth would make it: that concerned citizens with axes and tire irons will stay home as long as certain things aren't said. They're showing up anyway, buddy. You can walk on eggshells all you want, force everyone on the Internet to walk along with you, and they will still be out there. If your goal in life is to live as long as possible with as little violence as possible, I suggest you buy a nice farm somewhere safe and live out your years in quiet solitude. If, on the other hand, you want a rich life that is worth living, I suggest you learn to tolerate people publishing lies on the Internet and install a good deadbolt.
    - afuchs 8y ago
      Are angry mobs waiting to violently attack someone because their neighbor doesn't like the color their house is painted? Is this indistinguishable from when an angry mob violently attacks someone because their neighbor libeled them? The problem, as history has repeatedly shown, is that speech has consequences. Even simple jokes have lead to violence.
      - saas_sam 8y ago
        Can you seriously imagine a world where behavior and speech are restricted to that which does not cause people to get angry and potentially violent? Can you both imagine that world and also want to live in that world?
        afuchs 8y ago
        To the extent that it's possible, yes. Just look at Canada's hate speech laws if you want a real world example.
        saas_sam 8y ago
        Careful, you might anger a patriotic mob with that talk, might want to cool it.