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Absolutely right on the emotional mark! I have intentionally entered into plenty of relationships with companies to have cheap(er) product subsidized by advert

Absolutely right on the emotional mark! I have intentionally entered into plenty of relationships with companies to have cheap(er) product subsidized by advertising. It's a choice and I know what I'm getting. But I feel like we're getting to the point where no amount of money is enough to opt out of ads in certain types of products: * Physical copies of movies * Non-libre operating systems [1] * Gaming consoles * Phones * Most websites * Most print media (excepting books) * All television In many of these cases, I've chosen to not participate at all, rather than enter into such an agreement. But that's kind of sad. [1] I'm really just generalizing about consumer Windows here. Sweet monkey lord, when I open the "Start" menu on a nearby Windows 10 laptop, it's visually like walking into a Las Vegas casino! I assume the enterprise Windows situation is not like that? Also, I don't know if it's better or worse on Macs?

MrLeap 8y ago
At the moment, it is better on Mac, but who the hell knows how long until the touch bar is repurposed as a billboard to sell you a subscription to WWE's streaming service or whatever the fuck. Sweet monkey lord indeed. I used to be one of those rare Windows evangelists who said C# was the best thing since sliced bread, Windows 7 was the best thing since Windows 2000, WPF was my favorite way to make apps, and the microsoft surface (the table sized one) was going to change computing forever. I even nearly bought a zune. Now I turn my PC on in disgust just so my daughter can play Job Simulator. After my macbook dies, maybe I'll wind down the consulting business, move to South Dakota and start selling plasma.
tjalfi 8y ago
Enterprise Windows is much the same. It comes with Candy Crush and other crapware preinstalled.
- chopin 8y ago
  I am sitting right in front of such a system (employer provided). How would I find Candy Crush? The Windows Search doesn't turn up anything.
  - tjalfi 8y ago
    Your IT department may have removed Candy Crush and other bundled applications. That is what we did.

MrLeap 8y ago

At the moment, it is better on Mac, but who the hell knows how long until the touch bar is repurposed as a billboard to sell you a subscription to WWE's streaming service or whatever the fuck. Sweet monkey lord indeed. I used to be one of those rare Windows evangelists who said C# was the best thing since sliced bread, Windows 7 was the best thing since Windows 2000, WPF was my favorite way to make apps, and the microsoft surface (the table sized one) was going to change computing forever. I even nearly bought a zune. Now I turn my PC on in disgust just so my daughter can play Job Simulator. After my macbook dies, maybe I'll wind down the consulting business, move to South Dakota and start selling plasma.

tjalfi 8y ago

Enterprise Windows is much the same. It comes with Candy Crush and other crapware preinstalled.

chopin 8y ago
I am sitting right in front of such a system (employer provided). How would I find Candy Crush? The Windows Search doesn't turn up anything.
- tjalfi 8y ago
  Your IT department may have removed Candy Crush and other bundled applications. That is what we did.