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> It’s essentially a bait and switch, which is why I believe Google deserves that fine. Seems like you're projecting your own expectations onto what Google has

> It’s essentially a bait and switch, which is why I believe Google deserves that fine. Seems like you're projecting your own expectations onto what Google has really been selling all along. Google doesn't advertise Android as "free as in freedom." OEMs comply with their conditions. It's how it works.

bad_user 8y ago
No, that was Android’s marketing from day 1 and as far as OEMs go, Google’s conditions have evolved, along with what they are shoving down on their users’ throats. And as far as “free as in freedom” goes, the US law agrees with me via “estoppel”.
- kajecounterhack 8y ago
  Open doesn't mean the same thing as free. Estoppel does not help that "free as in freedom" was never true.
GeekyBear 8y ago
>you're projecting your own expectations onto what Google has really been selling Andy Rubin in 2010 speaking on how open Android is: >the definition of open: "mkdir android ; cd android ; repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync ; make" https://twitter.com/Arubin/status/27808662429 https://twitter.com/Arubin/status/27808662429
- kajecounterhack 8y ago
  Open doesn't mean the same thing as free.