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Promoting psychedelics as strong medicine to be used only by medical experts is very different from legalizing psychedelics because some people claim less poten
by gepi79 8y ago
Promoting psychedelics as strong medicine to be used only by medical experts is very different from legalizing psychedelics because some people claim less potential for harm than alcohol or tobacco.
- deno 8y agoBy any objective assessment they are not even in the same league[1]. Should you be prescribed alcohol by a doctor, as well? After all, a significant number of people can’t be trusted to use it responsibly. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_harmfulness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_harmfulness
- 1000units 8y agoAlcohol can safely be enjoyed in moderation, as countless humans have successfully managed for thousands of years. A single LSD trip can ruin you, as many people have proven in these past tens of years.
- deno 8y agoA single drunken escapade can ruin your life. What’s your point?
- gepi79 8y agoThe point is that alcohol is predictable and does not affect your well being after the intoxication. Proven countless times. Using psychedelics is like playing russian roulette. Proven countless times. The effects of a reasonable dose of psychedelics ranges from weird experience to psychosis (you do not recognize false beliefs) to the worst action you have made. http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/04/28/why-were-early-psychedelicists-so-weird/ http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/04/28/why-were-early-psychede... There is a reason why alcohol and tobacco are accepted in almost all societies while opioids and psychedelics are treated differently. IMO too many people suffer already from psychosis. E.g. flat earthers, denial of climate change denial, denial of urgent action against climate change, low carb diet is healthy,... Judging what is real and what not is already difficult for many without psychedelics. Read about Donald Trump or Scott Pruitt, the ex-EPA administrator.
- deno 8y agoSomeone prone to alcoholism tries their first gateway alcoholic drink, becomes alcoholic, kills themselves and several other people in a drunk driving manslaughter. This is not hypothetical, it’s a much too common scenario. You’re praising the de facto drug of violence, comparable in social harm only to heroin, as “socially acceptable”, while grossly misrepresenting the actual harm potential of substances like LSD (“Openness To Experience” is “Russian roulette”, seriously? So is a trip to the Grand Canyon.) Then you just call anyone you disagree with mentally ill… You know Donald Trump is a teetotaler, right?
- 1000units 8y agoThe blog linked above has some good information about how conditional probabilities work as well. I advise checking it out. Really enhances your ability to examine the world and arrive at sound insights if that's something you're interested in. (very much unlike LSD) To your last comment, maybe this is surprising, but I'm a teetotaler myself.