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> It apparently can bring out already dormant mental illnesses but is not in any way associated with the formation of new mental illnesses. The victim does not

by gepi79 8y ago

> It apparently can bring out already dormant mental illnesses but is not in any way associated with the formation of new mental illnesses. The victim does not know in advance. The victim does not care afterwards because the result is the same.

1000units 8y ago
And how is he so confident it doesn't "form new illnesses," whatever that might mean? Like I've mentioned upthread, I've known a number of people who have clearly suffered from having tried LSD. Some of them will admit it was the worst decision they've ever made. Others will deny it, strongly encourage you to try it, and if you press them for how it might help you exactly they cannot explain, but there is a glimmer of anxiety and recognition that it changed them deeply in ways they are not comfortable with. And they want you to join them. It's very chilling. It reminds me of how you'll see in some gay communities when someone contracts HIV they will compulsively spread it to as many people as possible.
- Rescis 8y ago
  > It's very chilling. It reminds me of how you'll see in some gay communities when someone contracts HIV they will compulsively spread it to as many people as possible. Do you have a source for this? Your claim seems like a very broad and negative generalizatuon of an entire group of diverse people, who are often marginalized.
  - 1000units 8y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing#References https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing#References
codyb 8y ago
Sure, and the victim of a car crash doesn't know this taxi ride is going to be the one that kills them. The victim of Pneumonia doesn't know they contracted it in that one supermarket. Lettuce sometimes carries ecoli bacteria and spreads outbreaks amongst tens or hundreds of people at once. Should we ban lettuce too? And, I dunno what people you hang out with, but most people I've met are pretty hesitant to just shove hard drugs into their bodies. It's not like everyone would be forced to eat LSD if it became legal tomorrow. And I know plenty of people who've had bad trips (and many many more that have not) and none of them have gone insane or become mentally ill afterwards. I mean, just look at a concert like Woodstock for instance. Half a million people in attendance, huge counter culture movement, and shit tons of LSD. Look at Burning Man, there are drug overdoses, but they don't appear to be caused by LSD as searches for LSD overdose yield exactly zero relevant results. I just think perhaps you've been told LSD is bad your whole life when, really, it's not that bad. Take it with care. Don't go dropping tabs when you haven't done your research. But the literal vast vast vast majority of people who take it are fine, and many report it being a positive life changing experience for them.

by gepi79 8y ago

1000units 8y ago

And how is he so confident it doesn't "form new illnesses," whatever that might mean? Like I've mentioned upthread, I've known a number of people who have clearly suffered from having tried LSD. Some of them will admit it was the worst decision they've ever made. Others will deny it, strongly encourage you to try it, and if you press them for how it might help you exactly they cannot explain, but there is a glimmer of anxiety and recognition that it changed them deeply in ways they are not comfortable with. And they want you to join them. It's very chilling. It reminds me of how you'll see in some gay communities when someone contracts HIV they will compulsively spread it to as many people as possible.

Rescis 8y ago
> It's very chilling. It reminds me of how you'll see in some gay communities when someone contracts HIV they will compulsively spread it to as many people as possible. Do you have a source for this? Your claim seems like a very broad and negative generalizatuon of an entire group of diverse people, who are often marginalized.
- 1000units 8y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing#References https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing#References

codyb 8y ago

Sure, and the victim of a car crash doesn't know this taxi ride is going to be the one that kills them. The victim of Pneumonia doesn't know they contracted it in that one supermarket. Lettuce sometimes carries ecoli bacteria and spreads outbreaks amongst tens or hundreds of people at once. Should we ban lettuce too? And, I dunno what people you hang out with, but most people I've met are pretty hesitant to just shove hard drugs into their bodies. It's not like everyone would be forced to eat LSD if it became legal tomorrow. And I know plenty of people who've had bad trips (and many many more that have not) and none of them have gone insane or become mentally ill afterwards. I mean, just look at a concert like Woodstock for instance. Half a million people in attendance, huge counter culture movement, and shit tons of LSD. Look at Burning Man, there are drug overdoses, but they don't appear to be caused by LSD as searches for LSD overdose yield exactly zero relevant results. I just think perhaps you've been told LSD is bad your whole life when, really, it's not that bad. Take it with care. Don't go dropping tabs when you haven't done your research. But the literal vast vast vast majority of people who take it are fine, and many report it being a positive life changing experience for them.