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Show me the evidence that Google was warned about this practice and refused to stop for a long time. I have a really hard time believing that they wouldn't take

by cncrnd 8y ago

Show me the evidence that Google was warned about this practice and refused to stop for a long time. I have a really hard time believing that they wouldn't take action in response to warnings if they knew that 40% of yearly profit was at stake. How the hell can the EU entitle itself to 40% of the profit of a company that provides a massive value add to the world? Email, search, maps, video, cloud, office apps and so much more. I don't think Americans are the arrogant ones here, with the EU levying multi-billion dollar fines on a yearly basis.

oblio 8y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corp_v_Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corp_v_Commission ...
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mrpopo 8y ago
> Show me the evidence that Google was warned about this practice and refused to stop for a long time. In the article : "Google, which can appeal any decision, has rejected the EU’s case since the bloc issued formal charges over two years ago."
- cncrnd 8y ago
  This is not evidence, charges were issued years ago based on past behavior. Until there is a decision made, why should Google change it's behavior? My view on this situation is that regulators should decide if such bundling is allowed on a case by case basis. Then, the ruling is 'We have made a decision. You get X fine if you do not comply.' Rather than, 'We prosecutors think you are not complying' followed by 'Yep you were not complying, give us billions'.
  - ginko 8y ago
    So, if you're caught parking in a handicapped spot, do you also expect a note asking you nicely to stop doing that in the future before getting a fine?
    - cncrnd 8y ago
      Yes, if the fine is 40% of my yearly income.
      - Radle 8y ago
        The last fine google got was 10% of their income, last year. This year they aren't playing by the rules again. What is the EU supposed to do? Give another 10% fine that will be ignored? Also the fine is not 40% of googles income. The corrected income this year is $22.4 billion USD. $5 billion is less than a quarter of that. Going from 10% to 20-25% seems totally okay, if google does not try to follow european law. (The 2017 income of google is lower because they decided to use the new US tax law in order to move a lot of money to the USA which cost them $9.8 billion. But you can't say your income is low just because you spend it all on ice cream. This is why I use the adjusted number of $22.4 billion)
Dayshine 8y ago
Oh, you'll love it when you finishing reading the article and read the bit about what happens if Google don't actually stop doing this in the next 90 days.

by cncrnd 8y ago

oblio 8y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corp_v_Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corp_v_Commission ...

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mrpopo 8y ago

> Show me the evidence that Google was warned about this practice and refused to stop for a long time. In the article : "Google, which can appeal any decision, has rejected the EU’s case since the bloc issued formal charges over two years ago."

cncrnd 8y ago
This is not evidence, charges were issued years ago based on past behavior. Until there is a decision made, why should Google change it's behavior? My view on this situation is that regulators should decide if such bundling is allowed on a case by case basis. Then, the ruling is 'We have made a decision. You get X fine if you do not comply.' Rather than, 'We prosecutors think you are not complying' followed by 'Yep you were not complying, give us billions'.
- ginko 8y ago
  So, if you're caught parking in a handicapped spot, do you also expect a note asking you nicely to stop doing that in the future before getting a fine?
  - cncrnd 8y ago
    Yes, if the fine is 40% of my yearly income.
    - Radle 8y ago
      The last fine google got was 10% of their income, last year. This year they aren't playing by the rules again. What is the EU supposed to do? Give another 10% fine that will be ignored? Also the fine is not 40% of googles income. The corrected income this year is $22.4 billion USD. $5 billion is less than a quarter of that. Going from 10% to 20-25% seems totally okay, if google does not try to follow european law. (The 2017 income of google is lower because they decided to use the new US tax law in order to move a lot of money to the USA which cost them $9.8 billion. But you can't say your income is low just because you spend it all on ice cream. This is why I use the adjusted number of $22.4 billion)

Dayshine 8y ago

Oh, you'll love it when you finishing reading the article and read the bit about what happens if Google don't actually stop doing this in the next 90 days.