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You won't find any companies with competitive online games that turn a blind eye to cheating. If you consider a game with a cheater as being ruined for the othe

You won't find any companies with competitive online games that turn a blind eye to cheating. If you consider a game with a cheater as being ruined for the other players, a very small number of cheaters can ruin games for a large portion of the players. For a rough example of how the math works, let's say we have a game that is 5v5. If we have 100 players, 1 player cheating, and everyone plays once you end up with 9 players having their game ruined. That's 9% of players impacted by having 1% of the players cheating.

mikec3010 8y ago
I'm not suggesting they tolerate it completely. Just that they make the game slightly "cheatable" then counteract it enough for there to be a known controversy.
- B-Con 8y ago
  How is it different than today? The game is slightly cheatable (scripters exist) and they are counterating it and getting some publicity out of it. Being so good at anti-cheat that there is nothing to talk about seems like something so far away it's not worth thinking about. But that said, I doubt the gains from allow "controversy" around cheating would outweigh the benefit of not having any cheating in the game. Not having cheaters is it's own talking point. Withing the competitive gaming community, cheating is already a major talking point and having little to no cheating is already a major selling feature.
- fredophile 8y ago
  No one is intentionally making it possible to cheat in their games. Cheaters and cheat detection/prevention are in a constant arms race. You can't just allow a little cheating. The people that develop cheats will share them and those cheats become more widespread. Your whole argument is also based on the idea that there is no such thing as bad publicity. This is incorrect. If your game gets a reputation for being full of cheaters then people will leave your game and probably not come back. If the first time you hear about a game, all you hear is that it is full of cheaters are you going to head out to the store to buy a copy?
YouKnowBetter 8y ago
> You won't find any companies with competitive online games that turn a blind eye to cheating. My experience is a little different: if I buy enough in game shizzle (be it free to play or games like WoW with a buildin store), I get away with murder. > For a rough example of how the math works[...] IMHO You are right about the math, but use the wrong parameters. Many game companies that accept additional currency actually allow their moneymakers to "bend the rules". No hard data, just my individual observations while using "tools" in different settings.

mikec3010 8y ago

I'm not suggesting they tolerate it completely. Just that they make the game slightly "cheatable" then counteract it enough for there to be a known controversy.

B-Con 8y ago
How is it different than today? The game is slightly cheatable (scripters exist) and they are counterating it and getting some publicity out of it. Being so good at anti-cheat that there is nothing to talk about seems like something so far away it's not worth thinking about. But that said, I doubt the gains from allow "controversy" around cheating would outweigh the benefit of not having any cheating in the game. Not having cheaters is it's own talking point. Withing the competitive gaming community, cheating is already a major talking point and having little to no cheating is already a major selling feature.
fredophile 8y ago
No one is intentionally making it possible to cheat in their games. Cheaters and cheat detection/prevention are in a constant arms race. You can't just allow a little cheating. The people that develop cheats will share them and those cheats become more widespread. Your whole argument is also based on the idea that there is no such thing as bad publicity. This is incorrect. If your game gets a reputation for being full of cheaters then people will leave your game and probably not come back. If the first time you hear about a game, all you hear is that it is full of cheaters are you going to head out to the store to buy a copy?

YouKnowBetter 8y ago

> You won't find any companies with competitive online games that turn a blind eye to cheating. My experience is a little different: if I buy enough in game shizzle (be it free to play or games like WoW with a buildin store), I get away with murder. > For a rough example of how the math works[...] IMHO You are right about the math, but use the wrong parameters. Many game companies that accept additional currency actually allow their moneymakers to "bend the rules". No hard data, just my individual observations while using "tools" in different settings.