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This sounds like another way the rich get access while the poor are stuck with crappy government care.

crankylinuxuser 8y ago
"Crappy government care" is better than none. And it's only "Crappy" because of the following: 1. Cut funding to govt services 2. Complain about bad govt services 3. Repeat
- mkirklions 8y ago
  idk, the US spends more than any country on their education, but we dont produce the smartest students. Money is minor compared to the culture found in a government agency
  - crankylinuxuser 8y ago
    > the US spends more than any country on their education From a general review, it appears we're in the top of spending. There's a good reason why: government services have been privatized and contracted out. So when the govt could have did it for X$, the for-profit private entity charges 2*X$. And this happens across the government at all scales. I work in a regulated industry and have called three letter agencies over computing issues. 95% of the time, I end up getting another contractor. > but we dont produce the smartest students. But we create rich companies who suck on the public teet.
    - mkirklions 8y ago
      You really found a way to do mental gymnastics around this. None of this is avoidable. Give money to the government, they are going to give it to their friends.
      - crankylinuxuser 8y ago
        The problems with governments (notice the plural) is that their activities and expenditures are not public and transparent. Having how the money is flowing, and for what and to whom would clear this up tremendously. And frankly, when companies get their hands into it, they are going to extract profit from it. Government isnt bound by shareholders or profit-seeking behavior. Doing things at cost is not only acceptable, but expected. There's times and places where governments providing the service makes a great deal of sense. It's times for libertarian types to actually realize that game theory does indeed show good reasons for govt services.
frockington 8y ago
Or they could work where there is better healthcare. Even as a lot boy at Home Depot the healthcare was pretty reasonable and much better than the governments

"Crappy government care" is better than none. And it's only "Crappy" because of the following: 1. Cut funding to govt services 2. Complain about bad govt services 3. Repeat

mkirklions 8y ago
idk, the US spends more than any country on their education, but we dont produce the smartest students. Money is minor compared to the culture found in a government agency
- crankylinuxuser 8y ago
  > the US spends more than any country on their education From a general review, it appears we're in the top of spending. There's a good reason why: government services have been privatized and contracted out. So when the govt could have did it for X$, the for-profit private entity charges 2*X$. And this happens across the government at all scales. I work in a regulated industry and have called three letter agencies over computing issues. 95% of the time, I end up getting another contractor. > but we dont produce the smartest students. But we create rich companies who suck on the public teet.
  - mkirklions 8y ago
    You really found a way to do mental gymnastics around this. None of this is avoidable. Give money to the government, they are going to give it to their friends.
    - crankylinuxuser 8y ago
      The problems with governments (notice the plural) is that their activities and expenditures are not public and transparent. Having how the money is flowing, and for what and to whom would clear this up tremendously. And frankly, when companies get their hands into it, they are going to extract profit from it. Government isnt bound by shareholders or profit-seeking behavior. Doing things at cost is not only acceptable, but expected. There's times and places where governments providing the service makes a great deal of sense. It's times for libertarian types to actually realize that game theory does indeed show good reasons for govt services.

frockington 8y ago

Or they could work where there is better healthcare. Even as a lot boy at Home Depot the healthcare was pretty reasonable and much better than the governments