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> So he's pretty clearly trying to game the situation. I think you've misinterpreted some ambiguity in his statement because he neglected to use the proper tens
by cptskippy 8y ago
> So he's pretty clearly trying to game the situation.
I think you've misinterpreted some ambiguity in his statement because he neglected to use the proper tense when justifying his reason for not having a return flight booked.
They inquired if he had a pre booked flight home:
>> Our medical team believe this injury may require long term care, so we would see if beneficial that you return to the UK for treatment, if you have a pre booked flight home please advise us on the date?
His response to that line was:
>> The medical team here have suggested that I will require physiotherapy once a week for 4 to 6 weeks. I have no return flight booked at present, as I intend to stay in Asia for some time yet. I did consider travelling home to have surgery in the UK, but the medical Service is excellent and I'm already scheduled in for the procedure on Monday.
The partial quote you took, "I intend to stay in Asia for some time yet", was his justification for not having a pre booked flight home, not an expression of his refusal to comply with their recommendations.
> He wanted to keep traveling and avoid the NHS.
You've also mistaken his desire to finish receiving treatment in Singapore as a desire to avoid the NHS. His desire was to receive the most immediate care possible and the surgery was intended to install a plate to stabilize his hand and ensure that it heals properly.
They were asking him to fly for 20+ hours in a coach seat, considering his hand was unstable that seams unreasonable. It also increases the likelihood of additional injury as he travels.
The were asking him to transition his medical care from one hospital to another in another country on the other side of the globe. That by itself would introduce considerable delay in treatment as the new medical team would need to fully access his treatment up to that point and establish a new treatment plan. The surgery he was prescribed was to stabilize his injury to ensure it healed properly, delaying that treatment could potentially lead to improper healing.
As someone who popped a pulled tendon and had to wait 6 months (MURICA!) for an appointment with an orthopedist at which point my injury was healed (thankfully correctly), I can fully understand his desire to stay put and finish his treatment.
- rsbadger 8y agoYes to all of this.
- trocadero 8y ago>You've also mistaken his desire to finish receiving treatment in Singapore as a desire to avoid the NHS It's right there in his e-mail. He was concerned: "About potential waiting times on the NHS". >They were asking him to fly for 20+ hours in a coach seat, considering his hand was unstable that seams unreasonable. It also increases the likelihood of additional injury as he travels. IMHO if his hand is well enough to be discharged then the presumption is it's well enough to travel. Of course, he can provide evidence from his doctor to rebut that presumption. The insurance co asked for that but it's not clear he ever provided it. >The were asking him to transition his medical care from one hospital to another in another country on the other side of the globe. Which is the service he paid for. Travel insurance is to pay for emergency care until you are able to fly home. If he wants an "any hospital, for any treatment, in any country" policy those are sold too, but, naturally, are much more expensive than Bronze level travelers insurance.
- jwmoz 8y agoYour attitude is disgusting. Do you work for the insurance company or something?
- trocadero 8y ago>Your attitude is disgusting. Oooh please elaborate on your personal insult. >Do you work for the insurance company or something? I am a software consultant, which, I suppose gives me a higher than normal aversion to people trying to get more than what is in their clearly stated contract.
- dwild 8y ago> His desire was to receive the most immediate care possible and the surgery was intended to install a plate to stabilize his hand and ensure that it heals properly. That has a cost. I'm Canadian and if I wanted to get a scan, it could takes months. If it's actually an emergency, it will be much faster, if I paid for it at a private clinic, it would be much faster too. Non urgent immediate care has a price. > The surgery he was prescribed was to stabilize his injury to ensure it healed properly, delaying that treatment could potentially lead to improper healing. They aren't there to give him "proper healing", they are there to support emergency situation. If you go to your hospital and it takes 6 months, it's because they believe that 6 months is still "proper healing". If it takes him longer in UK, it means that it's still "proper healing". His first hospital stay was an emergency, he didn't want to make the claims, but that was what was claimable. If his doctor in Singapore though that he couldn't take the plane, then that's what he should have gotten as proof.
- cptskippy 8y ago> Non urgent immediate care has a price. At least in the United States there's a distinction between Emergency, Urgent and Route care. I would classify this as urgent. > They aren't there to give him "proper healing", they are there to support emergency situation. Again, I'm not sure how it is in Canada but in the United States once you've undergone Emergency Surgery and you are stabilized; they move you into the non-emergency care ward and any followup procedures or treatment are on a needs basis. My assumption was that after his emergency surgery he was transitioned to a non-emergency care team that was responsible for for the follow up surgery. If he were undergoing emergency surgery to install the plate, I'm not sure they'd make him wait.
- moltar 8y agoYou are talking like waiting for months is the norm. That’s not the norm. That’s just what our shitty Canadian health care makes ya think.