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"Funny that that's never been my experience with Flash. Flash sites are horrible and I avoid them if I can, but Flash can socially engineer its way onto my mach

"Funny that that's never been my experience with Flash. Flash sites are horrible and I avoid them if I can, but Flash can socially engineer its way onto my machine through cool little in-browser games, whereas Silverlight just wants to "enhance" my viewing of MSDN." I have played quite a few Silverlight games. Why the attitude towards something that adds more functionality?

jasonkester 16y ago
It's the "why" that makes it funny for me. I have no idea why I mind Flash less than Silverlight. It certainly has nothing to do with Microsoft. Maybe it's that there's already a Flash. And I already downloaded it and installed it. If you want to give me Flash-like content, go nuts, but do it with the Flash that I already have. There's no real reason to have built a second one, so I don't see any reason why I should have to install it. So I don't.
- robryan 16y ago
  For a .net developer, using silverlight to tie into things they already have makes a lot more sense than flash which would result in a somewhat parallel code base in something completely different. I guess if silverlight was the accepted plugin and flash was the newer player your feelings would be reversed.
  - jasonkester 16y ago
    Ah, but as developers our opinions don't matter at all. It's all about what our end-users want, and they clearly don't wan't to install Silverlight. The fact that it's 10x easier for me as a C# guy to write my thing against Silverlight has exactly zero bearing on my decision to build a product in it. Users won't install it, so it's just bad business to build software for it. And yes, naturally, if the other thing was the accepted thing, I would be happy to accept it and not the other one. Like I say, there's no bias against one or the other. I (and seemingly everybody) simply don't want both.
    - robryan 16y ago
      I guess in a way it's aimed at enterprise custom stuff, a company running a .NET app can get it turned into a web app far cheaper with silverlight. That's the only place I have been exposed to it while interning. I personally wouldn't use it for anything but am happy to install the plugin as long as it doesn't noticeably degrade performance.
- atomical 16y ago
  What if Silverlight performs better in the long run and uses less resources than HTML5 and Flash? I would prefer to see a war between Flash, Silverlight, and HTML5. Sure open standards and all but the user may prefer something totally different. They may not want the fans on the back of their computer to spin up every time they go to an interactive website.

jasonkester 16y ago

It's the "why" that makes it funny for me. I have no idea why I mind Flash less than Silverlight. It certainly has nothing to do with Microsoft. Maybe it's that there's already a Flash. And I already downloaded it and installed it. If you want to give me Flash-like content, go nuts, but do it with the Flash that I already have. There's no real reason to have built a second one, so I don't see any reason why I should have to install it. So I don't.

robryan 16y ago
For a .net developer, using silverlight to tie into things they already have makes a lot more sense than flash which would result in a somewhat parallel code base in something completely different. I guess if silverlight was the accepted plugin and flash was the newer player your feelings would be reversed.
- jasonkester 16y ago
  Ah, but as developers our opinions don't matter at all. It's all about what our end-users want, and they clearly don't wan't to install Silverlight. The fact that it's 10x easier for me as a C# guy to write my thing against Silverlight has exactly zero bearing on my decision to build a product in it. Users won't install it, so it's just bad business to build software for it. And yes, naturally, if the other thing was the accepted thing, I would be happy to accept it and not the other one. Like I say, there's no bias against one or the other. I (and seemingly everybody) simply don't want both.
  - robryan 16y ago
    I guess in a way it's aimed at enterprise custom stuff, a company running a .NET app can get it turned into a web app far cheaper with silverlight. That's the only place I have been exposed to it while interning. I personally wouldn't use it for anything but am happy to install the plugin as long as it doesn't noticeably degrade performance.
atomical 16y ago
What if Silverlight performs better in the long run and uses less resources than HTML5 and Flash? I would prefer to see a war between Flash, Silverlight, and HTML5. Sure open standards and all but the user may prefer something totally different. They may not want the fans on the back of their computer to spin up every time they go to an interactive website.