You mean, others assume a logical impossibility and proceed from there. Violence is not an eradicable part of humanity, even in prisons. It doesn't go away if y

You mean, others assume a logical impossibility and proceed from there. Violence is not an eradicable part of humanity, even in prisons. It doesn't go away if you get rid of the violent government, you simply have unrestrained violence (anarchy), which is not a stable state, but an unstable local minimum. Ultimately, might does make right, in the sense that the irresistible (violent) power of the collective does dictate what the rights of the individual are. I'm sorry if you don't like that.