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It's close to impossible to be competitive with high flyers (the Google, Microsoft, etc) when you're a small company or startup. Just imagine yourself in their

by wazoox 16y ago

It's close to impossible to be competitive with high flyers (the Google, Microsoft, etc) when you're a small company or startup. Just imagine yourself in their shoes : would you rather work for some unknown company, with no benefits, no carrier perspective and little money, or Google? Yeah, you see what I mean. You need to take a different, peculiar approach to recruitment. So far, my very best way to recruit was through internship. The downside is that it will take long months to get acceptable engineers, then they won't stay with you for more than a year or two once they're competent.

pvg 16y ago
It's close to impossible to be competitive with high flyers (the Google, Microsoft, etc) when you're a small company or startup. This is utter nonsense. There are plenty of people who aren't necessarily interested in working for Google or Microsoft. Neither does working for a startup mean little pay and neither benefits nor career prospects (assuming that's what you meant by 'carrier perspective')
- wazoox 16y ago
  That's certainly true in "the Valley". In Europe, it's nigh to impossible to attract really qualified people in a small company/startup. They all work in safe, warm places :)
  - adw 16y ago
    I pretty much entirely disagree with that. OK, this is a product hire rather than engineering, but this is us: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2010/sep/22/timetric-financial-times-simon-briscoe http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2010/sep/22/timetric-fin... We're obviously delighted, and it wasn't easy, but it can be done. It's more than purely a sales job, particularly if you're trying to bring in someone really good. We're six full time right now, by the way.
andrewstuart 16y ago
>>>then they won't stay with you for more than a year or two once they're competent. Only true if you keep paying them like juniors and don't advance their career appropriately to their personal/professional development.

by wazoox 16y ago

pvg 16y ago

It's close to impossible to be competitive with high flyers (the Google, Microsoft, etc) when you're a small company or startup. This is utter nonsense. There are plenty of people who aren't necessarily interested in working for Google or Microsoft. Neither does working for a startup mean little pay and neither benefits nor career prospects (assuming that's what you meant by 'carrier perspective')

wazoox 16y ago
That's certainly true in "the Valley". In Europe, it's nigh to impossible to attract really qualified people in a small company/startup. They all work in safe, warm places :)
- adw 16y ago
  I pretty much entirely disagree with that. OK, this is a product hire rather than engineering, but this is us: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2010/sep/22/timetric-financial-times-simon-briscoe http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2010/sep/22/timetric-fin... We're obviously delighted, and it wasn't easy, but it can be done. It's more than purely a sales job, particularly if you're trying to bring in someone really good. We're six full time right now, by the way.

andrewstuart 16y ago

>>>then they won't stay with you for more than a year or two once they're competent. Only true if you keep paying them like juniors and don't advance their career appropriately to their personal/professional development.