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You can go ahead and start calling me black, then. Also, you have to accept that I identify as blind. Just because I am sighted doesn't mean I can't identify a

You can go ahead and start calling me black, then. Also, you have to accept that I identify as blind. Just because I am sighted doesn't mean I can't identify as blind. And deaf. Sign everything you say to me, because although I hear perfectly, I identify as deaf. Fuck political correctness. That's for retards. Oops, did I just say retards? That's not very politically correct of me. People can do whatever the hell they want, that's fine, but they have no right to expect me to change my behavior. They do what pleases them, I do what pleases me. Neither of us may please each other, and that should be fine. Why do you care so much?

lwhi 16y ago
No .. you have no right to treat people according to your own closed-minded and bigoted views. If we were all to follow your ugly example of what 'freedom' involves, racism and prejudice would be accepted blindly. It's only those who are part of the status quo, who can be as cavalier about the subject of 'political correctness' as you are. You're an ass. Why? Because all of your comparisons assume that the author's reasoning is imagined and fabricated. You are totally negating something which is obviously vitally important to the author. It's a fact that transgendered people's needs are real, and that not dealing with these needs causes a great deal of pain and disadvantage for those involved. It's not politically correct to think this - it's simply part of being a decent human being.
- PostOnce 16y ago
  I do have a right to treat people however I please, and they have the right to choose not to interact with me. If I want to make myself a pariah, by whatever means, then I damn well have the right to do so. And if by insisting to be referred to as a man, someone else makes themselves a pariah, that was also their choice. Live and let live, I say, but that does not mean you should acquiesce just because someone feels their views are right (i.e., agree with you, heh, what makes your views any more right than mine, or the people who upvoted me?). Just because something is important to someone else doesn't mean I have to give a fuck about it. For example, I am not going to be a vegan just because other people think it's bad to eat meat. Also, calling me an ass really strengthened your argument. Kudos.
  - TGJ 16y ago
    That is the whole crux of it for me. I don't have any ill intent towards this person and wish none upon them. I simply do not agree with the choice and therefore will not participate in it by referring to them how they wish.
    - lwhi 16y ago
      I can imagine that many people have uttered the very same sentiment in relation to black people and the n-word. At the end of the day, we all deserve to be able to be referred to in whichever way we choose. It's about mutual respect, and I'm shocked that this kind of view is prevalent in 2010.
      - TGJ 16y ago
        It will be prevalent long into the future, don't kid yourself. Opposing view points on all subjects will always exist and these arguments will always happen. Instead, you should be shocked when violence or vulgar language is still being used to exert opinion dominance.
        lwhi 16y ago
        The fact that many people might share your desire and tendancy to disrespect others doesn't mean that I should accept your nonsensical, prejudiced arguments as a necessary fact. The base argument that you are using is the same that has been used to validate the chastisement of many minority groups .. in fact all minority groups have campaigned for the right to be referred to using terms that offer respect. Making a 'stand' and arguing for the right to disrespect someone is far more dangerous than vulgar language will ever be - and I'd also argue that it's more disruptive than violence, as it has an effect which is longer lasting and is more likely to prevent lasting positive change.
        TGJ 16y ago
        Is the other person not disrespecting me when they ask me to refer or participate in their choices that I might not agree with? Why is it that when someone deviates from the norm, everyone else has to respect them while they do it?

lwhi 16y ago

No .. you have no right to treat people according to your own closed-minded and bigoted views. If we were all to follow your ugly example of what 'freedom' involves, racism and prejudice would be accepted blindly. It's only those who are part of the status quo, who can be as cavalier about the subject of 'political correctness' as you are. You're an ass. Why? Because all of your comparisons assume that the author's reasoning is imagined and fabricated. You are totally negating something which is obviously vitally important to the author. It's a fact that transgendered people's needs are real, and that not dealing with these needs causes a great deal of pain and disadvantage for those involved. It's not politically correct to think this - it's simply part of being a decent human being.

PostOnce 16y ago
I do have a right to treat people however I please, and they have the right to choose not to interact with me. If I want to make myself a pariah, by whatever means, then I damn well have the right to do so. And if by insisting to be referred to as a man, someone else makes themselves a pariah, that was also their choice. Live and let live, I say, but that does not mean you should acquiesce just because someone feels their views are right (i.e., agree with you, heh, what makes your views any more right than mine, or the people who upvoted me?). Just because something is important to someone else doesn't mean I have to give a fuck about it. For example, I am not going to be a vegan just because other people think it's bad to eat meat. Also, calling me an ass really strengthened your argument. Kudos.
- TGJ 16y ago
  That is the whole crux of it for me. I don't have any ill intent towards this person and wish none upon them. I simply do not agree with the choice and therefore will not participate in it by referring to them how they wish.
  - lwhi 16y ago
    I can imagine that many people have uttered the very same sentiment in relation to black people and the n-word. At the end of the day, we all deserve to be able to be referred to in whichever way we choose. It's about mutual respect, and I'm shocked that this kind of view is prevalent in 2010.
    - TGJ 16y ago
      It will be prevalent long into the future, don't kid yourself. Opposing view points on all subjects will always exist and these arguments will always happen. Instead, you should be shocked when violence or vulgar language is still being used to exert opinion dominance.
      - lwhi 16y ago
        The fact that many people might share your desire and tendancy to disrespect others doesn't mean that I should accept your nonsensical, prejudiced arguments as a necessary fact. The base argument that you are using is the same that has been used to validate the chastisement of many minority groups .. in fact all minority groups have campaigned for the right to be referred to using terms that offer respect. Making a 'stand' and arguing for the right to disrespect someone is far more dangerous than vulgar language will ever be - and I'd also argue that it's more disruptive than violence, as it has an effect which is longer lasting and is more likely to prevent lasting positive change.
        TGJ 16y ago
        Is the other person not disrespecting me when they ask me to refer or participate in their choices that I might not agree with? Why is it that when someone deviates from the norm, everyone else has to respect them while they do it?