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> Stop focusing on stuff you disagree with. Tell us why. For example, devops may be BS, but if so, why, and what is the alternative? There are answers. Also, c
by throwawayjava 8y ago
> Stop focusing on stuff you disagree with. Tell us why. For example, devops may be BS, but if so, why, and what is the alternative? There are answers.
Also, consider the possibility that you are wrong about the fad being stupid precisely because you've already accepted the fundamental premise behind the koolaid.
The original instantiation of devops is actually the "fad" that made me realize this particular truth. I had only ever worked in situations where all the infra people sling scripting languages along with the best of 'em and the software developers are as comfortable with iptables and apt and load balancers as they are with their editor/ide/compiler of choice.
So to me, devops sounded like a lot of ridiculous hot air -- it's just a new name for how things have always been; how can all these promises about productivity improvement make any sense to anyone?! And besides, the stuff that wasn't obvious was often ridiculous cargo culty stuff.
What I didn't know was the sheer number of shops where the IT people didn't have any programming skills and the programmers had never become competent with CLIs! In many shops, IT folks knew some recipes in the Windows Server GUIs and the devs knew how to use one IDE. When I first encountered a shop like that, I suddenly realized devops isn't hot air, even if for me the core tenets are just a description of how you should obviously do thins and how they've always been done...
- dasil003 8y agoAnd what do you think about the current trend wherein 60% of people who use the term DevOps do not understand any of what you said and just use it as the new word for System Administration?