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> your entire existence is as a wrapper around the content folks actually want to see Yeah, what sets popular streamers apart is that their 'wrapper' is distin

> your entire existence is as a wrapper around the content folks actually want to see Yeah, what sets popular streamers apart is that their 'wrapper' is distinctive and entertaining in its own right. Everyone is showing much the same product; what can you put around it that's different? Kind of like selling fizzy drinks, I guess.

s-shellfish 8y ago
Sort of. I've been making art for a long time, went to school for it. People want to see themselves in whatever you produce for them. It's that simple. They want something they identify with. Artists and content developers can have more fun playing with it because they have different meaning spaces - they see connections across content that is still self identity, it's just across a different set of things. It can be competitive and draining though, so one must use their energy wisely. Crowds can be fickle in general, so it can as well be exhausting staying plugged into them, producing just for them, without any way of receiving meaningful feedback. It's not that people are narcissists at heart, it's just that they don't want to pay attention to things to things that don't make sense to them on any level. That's pretty normal.
- B1FF_PSUVM 8y ago
  > People want to see themselves in whatever you produce for them. It's that simple. Funny thing is comrade Tocqueville hit on that upon looking at the USA for a couple of months almost two centuries ago. Something along the lines of "democratic peoples want to hear stories about themselves" (instead of the classics), rather early on the pages of his Democracy in America, writing about theater and culture.
  - s-shellfish 8y ago
    Now that I think about it though, it really depends. If there's no stable reflection of self identity, that's what people seek out. But if there is a stable way to identify with the self, people seek out novelty, something different. I think the internet introduces both tunnel vision of self identity and complete chaos where self identity breaks down. This seems like it would be an obvious consequence of anonymity, but some things are easily forgotten. It makes sense with the Democratic process. Identities constantly swapping and merging, playing both sides while being neither fundamentally. It makes sense that communism would have a valid criticism. Stable, forced sense of identity suppresses dissent before it manifests. Until revolution, war happens, that is. Scary stuff!
    - B1FF_PSUVM 8y ago
      Back in the old days of broadcast TV trying to hit peak audience, the voluntary sameness of the various broadcasters was scary ...
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KirinDave 8y ago
People like to pretend that they're unique and provide something special. But in reality, I don't really think most do.

s-shellfish 8y ago

Sort of. I've been making art for a long time, went to school for it. People want to see themselves in whatever you produce for them. It's that simple. They want something they identify with. Artists and content developers can have more fun playing with it because they have different meaning spaces - they see connections across content that is still self identity, it's just across a different set of things. It can be competitive and draining though, so one must use their energy wisely. Crowds can be fickle in general, so it can as well be exhausting staying plugged into them, producing just for them, without any way of receiving meaningful feedback. It's not that people are narcissists at heart, it's just that they don't want to pay attention to things to things that don't make sense to them on any level. That's pretty normal.

B1FF_PSUVM 8y ago
> People want to see themselves in whatever you produce for them. It's that simple. Funny thing is comrade Tocqueville hit on that upon looking at the USA for a couple of months almost two centuries ago. Something along the lines of "democratic peoples want to hear stories about themselves" (instead of the classics), rather early on the pages of his Democracy in America, writing about theater and culture.
- s-shellfish 8y ago
  Now that I think about it though, it really depends. If there's no stable reflection of self identity, that's what people seek out. But if there is a stable way to identify with the self, people seek out novelty, something different. I think the internet introduces both tunnel vision of self identity and complete chaos where self identity breaks down. This seems like it would be an obvious consequence of anonymity, but some things are easily forgotten. It makes sense with the Democratic process. Identities constantly swapping and merging, playing both sides while being neither fundamentally. It makes sense that communism would have a valid criticism. Stable, forced sense of identity suppresses dissent before it manifests. Until revolution, war happens, that is. Scary stuff!
  - B1FF_PSUVM 8y ago
    Back in the old days of broadcast TV trying to hit peak audience, the voluntary sameness of the various broadcasters was scary ...
    - deleted 8y ago
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KirinDave 8y ago

People like to pretend that they're unique and provide something special. But in reality, I don't really think most do.